Tank Nation UNITE!!!
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Actually no, they were embarrassingly bad long before they started stripping the team for parts. The Franson-Santo trade wasn't until Feb. 14, after the Leafs lost 2-1 to the Habs. Prior to that, they were something like 2-15 under Horacheck, including a honey of a stretch where they went 0-6 against all non-playoff teams, being out-scored 14-6. Since they started stripping parts, they are actually 6-13-2. Of course there was an embarrassing seven game losing stretch in there, including a horrific west coast trip. Even with Carlyle there were a few embarrassing nights including the debacle in Nashville and the 5-1 lost to Winnipeg where they looked like boys against men and it was the last game Carlyle coached. Let's just say there has been enough embarrassment to go around with this lot and be done with it.Nik the Trik said:
Nik the Trik said:
I was just reminded about this: The Penguins traded their 1st to Edmonton for Perron. They're the only potential non-playoff team to have traded their pick. Could you imagine if it was McDavid for Perron and the Oilers picked 1st and 3rd?
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slapshot said:
With all the doom and gloom this season, I thought this might be a good thread to post this. It's an article by Michael Traikos on Morgan Rielly. He talks with Rielly's trainer about what a freak of nature he is in terms of conditioning and fitness, and about his attitude and approach to the game. His 5+ foot vertical jump is pretty impressive, and I love the fact that when he was injured at 17, he would drive to the rink at 3 am to meet his teammates after a game.
It's nice to have a guy on this team, who continues to improve and have a great attitude, even when his team is setting records in futility. And, unlike the team itself, he's a pretty likeable guy.
http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-defenceman-morgan-rielly-an-athletic-freak-who-could-be-the-future-leader-of-the-blue-and-white
Heroic Shrimp
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CarltonTheBear said:
You mean 1st and 4th. But still...
Heroic Shrimp said:
I'm afraid that ship has officially sailed. The Leafs have 65 points. Edmonton has 59 with 3 games left. So even if the Oilers go 3-0 and the Leafs lose out they'll both have 65 points but Edmonton will "win/lose" the tiebreaker keeping them in 3rd.
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah, that's not what I mean. If Edmonton wins the lottery with Pittsburgh's pick, they'd clearly bump their own 3rd pick down to 4th.
Heroic Shrimp said:
Yeah, that's not what I mean. If Edmonton wins the lottery with Pittsburgh's pick, Buffalo would clearly just fold their franchise out of frustration.
Assuming that doesn't happen though, you're correct with your clarification. Thanks!
Kin
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slapshot said:
You're right to make the distinction butwhat I meant is that while they absolutely were in the midst of a terrible stretch, their record wasn't actually that terrible as a whole. The difference between the Leafs and the teams who could be said to be legitimate challengers for playoff spots is the difference between five or six games, not now where the difference is the outcome of 13 or 14 games.
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CarltonTheBear said:
I heartily endorse this approach of franchise suicide. Also, Arizona should seriously consider it as well.
4th is not locked up by a long shot. Carolina only has one easy game and that is Buffalo. Sabres have been playing better.
If the Leafs get by the very hot Columbus team, then we may drop to 5th from bottom because the Habs will surely sit Price and a few stars like Subban etc plus Patches is hurt. I think the leafs take the habs in the last game. We MUST lose to Columbus. The players are well on the way to screwing this up. Its not hard for Carolina to lose those last few games, especially if they also try to tank.
We have to lose to Columbus, plain and simple. Carolina has to beat Buffalo tomorrow. Then its done.
How much you want to bet someone behind us wins the lottery if we finish 5th....thus dropping us to 6th? Its just the Leafs way. Then Nonis will try to trade up a few spots to the place we had in the first place....then come and say "Couldn't get anything done. Not a good fit for our team. Didn't want to mortgage the future" and all that other BS he spouts all the time.
I'm beginning to hate this damn team.
If the Leafs get by the very hot Columbus team, then we may drop to 5th from bottom because the Habs will surely sit Price and a few stars like Subban etc plus Patches is hurt. I think the leafs take the habs in the last game. We MUST lose to Columbus. The players are well on the way to screwing this up. Its not hard for Carolina to lose those last few games, especially if they also try to tank.
We have to lose to Columbus, plain and simple. Carolina has to beat Buffalo tomorrow. Then its done.
How much you want to bet someone behind us wins the lottery if we finish 5th....thus dropping us to 6th? Its just the Leafs way. Then Nonis will try to trade up a few spots to the place we had in the first place....then come and say "Couldn't get anything done. Not a good fit for our team. Didn't want to mortgage the future" and all that other BS he spouts all the time.
I'm beginning to hate this damn team.
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Nik the Trik said:
Not to mention that we can easily say:
- It's going to be tough for Carolina to lose against Buffalo who still have a tenuous grasp on 1st overall.
- Carolina has a pretty good shot at taking out a Philadelphia team playing for nothing in their 2nd last game of the year
- Detroit may well be playing for nothing in Game 82
- Columbus is 13-3-0 in their last 16 games and are going to be tough for the Leafs to beat
- Montreal is actually playing for a lot in Game 82 with Tampa 2 points back and a shot at 1st in the conference/league too.
On another note, St. Louis passed Nashville which is good as it drops the Predators down to 2nd in their division and that would have them face Chicago in the 1st round instead of Calgary.
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L K said:
Well, yes, they beat Philly yesterday despite both teams having nothing to play for so all of the constant, unrelenting hand wringing about every single thing that happens is pretty bogus on it's own.
Seriously, I don't understand why people can't just let the season play out and then whine to their heart's content should these worst case scenarios, which probably won't have much impact on the team's rebuild anyway, play out.
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It's a very minor point, but I think Carolina won all three games vs the Leafs, which I think is the next tiebreaker after ROW. Unlikely to matter, but nice to know.
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