bustaheims
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Huberdeau. That is all.
The Official 2011/2012 Armchair GM thread
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Britishbulldog
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bustaheims said:
Way to kill the thread with an irrefutable post.
I've been thinking about dustin penner. Would he be an ok way to add some size to the forward lines? I was just thinking that a signing like that would let you avoid trading for a nash or a jvr and lets you focus on getting that #1 centre and #1 goalie you need.
thoughts?
thoughts?
bustaheims
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sneakyray said:
What Penner provides is bigness rather than size in the applied sense. While he's been more physical in the playoffs, he hasn't shown a consistent willingness to use his size in such a way during the regular season, and that's really what the Leafs need - especially since we're talking about a guy who saw his offensive production practically disappear this past season.
bustaheims said:
I think I'd be willing to give the guy a bit of a pass on last season what with his weird injury and going through a divorce. That personal stuff messes with you, ya know? But if his unwillingness to use his size is a career long thing than yeah, I guess I see why you wouldn't want him. Just looking at his career numbers though their not that bad. I guess my point is whether or not it would be a better use of 3-4million than armstrong, or lombardi. I don't think I would do it for much more than that.
plus, possibility of a monumental collapse notwithstanding, the guy is about to be a multiple stanley cup winner.
bustaheims said:
I largely agree in terms of his physical play. He has historically thrived some on the PP as a big body that will go to the net. Leafs could use that if he'd deliver it. His ice time and PP time got cut in LA this season and he was injured for a number of games. So some of the drop in production is due to less ice time but with how much LA's PP struggled, if he'd been any good, he could have earned more PP time fairly easily.
Even since 2006 - after the rules changes were made, I think skating has gradually continued to increase as a requirement for success. Although I've seen flashes of decent skating from him in these playoffs, Penner is not very consistent in that area and never has been in my opinion.
I have my doubts that LA will try very hard to re-sign him which probably says something too though I expect someone will give him a try.
bustaheims
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sneakyray said:
Sure, but I doubt anyone will ever seriously say he was a key component of any of those teams winning the Cup. A lot of guys have multiple Cup rings on their resume, and a lot of those guys are decidedly ordinary, easily replaceable players.
Strike a couple off the wishlist. I wasn't particularly interested in either as they both would have come over-priced, but I know some were.
Britishbulldog
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Corn Flake said:
With so many older Leaf players with one more year on their contracts and with watching the Marlies playoff run I am thinking more than ever that the young players should be kept one more year in the AHL.
Like BWB suggests, I would go after J Staal, Parise and Luongo.
While MacArthur's value is at the highest and C Stewart's value is probably at the lowest I think it is a good time to make the move. I also think this is a good trade for both teams.
This would leave Colborne, Kadri, Ashton and Frattin on the Marlies to be called up when injuries happen. I have really liked Frattin's game in the AHL playoffs though. He is a harder hitter than Armstrong and 2-3 times the goal scorer.
I believe the movable signed contracts on the Leafs are Bozak and Gunnarsson and will most likely have to be traded. Un-signed rfas that could be moved are probably Kulemin*, Frattin*, Mueller, Franson*, Holzer*, Fraser* and Scrivens*. (* want to keep) Unloading contracts for Luongo would be Komisarek leaving the Leafs looking something like this next year (Rosehill and Lashoff as placeholders):
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Jordan Staal ($4.000m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Joffrey Lupul ($4.250m) / Mikhail Grabovski ($5.500m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.500m)
Matthew Lombardi ($3.500m) / Tim Connolly ($4.750m) / Chris Stewart ($3.500m)
Leo Komarov ($1.200m) / David Steckel ($1.100m) / Mike Brown ($0.737m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
John-Michael Liles ($3.875m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Mark Fraser ($0.605m) / Cody Franson ($1.325m)
Matt Lashoff ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($1.800m)
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
BUYOUTS
Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,791,667; BONUSES: $562,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $508,333
At next years trade deadline evaluate: Connolly, Lupul, and Lombardi at a combined $12.5 MIL cap hit.
Realistically, if Parise doesn't re-sign with the Devils ( which seems almost certain to me ) his cap hit will likely be higher than 7 I think.
Getting Staal won't be cheap.
Matt Frattin will be, in all probability, a full time Leaf next year or NHL'r if traded.
Fraser and Holzer give the Leafs some bottom pairing options, Lashoff I'm not so sure about as he's ufa and probably looking for a bit better guaranteed money.
I really hope the Leafs are in on Schultz.
I also think there are opportunities given the Jones contract, that some teams might be willing to take a one year player like Lombardi or Connolly instead of blowing their brains out on an ufa.
Also, even if the cap doesn't go back down, that's pretty tight bulldog, might need some cushion.
Getting Staal won't be cheap.
Matt Frattin will be, in all probability, a full time Leaf next year or NHL'r if traded.
Fraser and Holzer give the Leafs some bottom pairing options, Lashoff I'm not so sure about as he's ufa and probably looking for a bit better guaranteed money.
I really hope the Leafs are in on Schultz.
I also think there are opportunities given the Jones contract, that some teams might be willing to take a one year player like Lombardi or Connolly instead of blowing their brains out on an ufa.
Also, even if the cap doesn't go back down, that's pretty tight bulldog, might need some cushion.
Britishbulldog
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Tigger said:
LuncheonMeat
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Tigger said:
"Justin Schultz will not be an Anaheim Duck, He's informed us that he wishes to explore talks with the 29 other clubs, and that's his right under the current CBA." - Bob Murray
The plot thickens!!!
Corn Flake
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Madferret said:
So far it's speculation, abut why would the Pens give an indication?
bustaheims
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Madferret said:
There was something about Shero acknowledging that changes need to be made or something along those lines, but, that's about it.
Corn Flake
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Madferret said:
The 2+2 that some of us are putting together with the Pens making changes is the defense needs help as much as the goaltending did. The Flyers were manhandling them down low and although Fleury was a disaster with zero confidence, their d-men should take much of the blame too.
So the assumption is that they will probably sacrifice up front to address the defense, and Staal being on the verge of UFA, rumored to be looking for a more prominent role, is the obvious name to keep coming up.