The Official Complaint Thread!

[Kin]

That's not what I'm saying. By refusing to disperse when the violence erupted, they are guilty of contributing to an environment where the violence would be allowed to continue. I know the definition of the word "guilty". You're the one who seems to think that a particular crime must be involved for the word to apply.

Leaving aside that there aren't really words to describe how ridiculous  "Sure some people are guilty of actual crimes but the other people are as guilty" is there is no definition of guilty where people who aren't doing something are as responsible as the people who are.

I thought I explained mob mentality in pretty much the same way you just did. That's why the Police can't just go charging into the crowd to arrest those responsible. If the crowd is ignorant of the situation, then that ignorance is going to cause otherwise calm and law-abiding people to question their actions, and the mob mentality would kick in. All it takes is ONE person to start yelling "shame! shame!".

No, you basically described a situation where mob mentality isn't occurring. Where people are not being caught up in a crowd mentality and are still conducting themselves peacefully and within their rights. According to you, though, that makes them just as guilty as people committing crimes. Words fail.

 

[TML fan]

That's not what I'm saying. By refusing to disperse when the violence erupted, they are guilty of contributing to an environment where the violence would be allowed to continue. I know the definition of the word "guilty". You're the one who seems to think that a particular crime must be involved for the word to apply.

Leaving aside that there aren't really words to describe how ridiculous  "Sure some people are guilty of actual crimes but the other people are as guilty" is there is no definition of guilty where people who aren't doing something are as responsible as the people who are.

I thought I explained mob mentality in pretty much the same way you just did. That's why the Police can't just go charging into the crowd to arrest those responsible. If the crowd is ignorant of the situation, then that ignorance is going to cause otherwise calm and law-abiding people to question their actions, and the mob mentality would kick in. All it takes is ONE person to start yelling "shame! shame!".

No, you basically described a situation where mob mentality isn't occurring. Where people are not being caught up in a crowd mentality and are still conducting themselves peacefully and within their rights. According to you, though, that makes them just as guilty as people committing crimes. Words fail.

That's not what I've said. I'm sorry your mind won't allow you to see that.

 

[Tigger]

I've already explained why it's very difficult if not impossible to separate the peaceful protesters from the violent criminals in a crowd like that.

During the majority of the 'black bloc' violence they were not among a crowd of peaceful protesters, they were mostly isolated in plain sight as they smashed windows and lit police cars on fire, there is ample video evidence of this.

I also never once said that everything they did was above the board, or even that it was right. I believe that curtailing the right of assembly was necessary to prevent further violence which is CERTAINLY covered in Section 1 of the Charter. I firmly believe that when the violence erupted, that the peaceful, law-abiding protesters had a RESPONSIBILITY to extricate themselves from the area and make way for the Police to apprehend those responsible. From what I can tell, that DID NOT HAPPEN.

According to Paikin, from what he saw, that wasn't the case for the most part once the black bloc idiots were done ( and not arrested ) and it was the police who ramped up violence and aggression after the fact, not the other way around. Curtailing the right of assembly is a pretty serious call for a crowd that is actually protesting peacefully.

Fwiw, out of 1100 arrests only 317 charges were laid and 187 of those have since been withdrawn never mind those who have 'had their day in court'.

Too bad my 'Kettling for Dummies' book was rejected, I could have made soooo much money, I even had a snack brand to go with it... 'Kettle Cooked Montebello style Blue Cheese'.

 

[L K]

Your Toronto mayor:

Ford?s spokesperson, Adrienne Batra, declined to say whether Ford sees the second batch of nurses the same way he saw the first. ?We do not talk to the Toronto Star,? Batra said.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

What a petty group of people.

 

[McPwnage]

Guess ford will only be giving quotes to The Sun aka fox news toronto.

 

[Tigger]

So Toronto, how's Jabba the Ford working out for you?

Frankly I think he falls under the iron clad definition of 'Communist' served up by Mammoliti.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Hows that privately funded Sheppard subway extension comin'?

 

[Leafaholic99]

Yesterday, it was four of my friends birthdays, kinda of weird that in a small town, four of your friends birthdays all fall on the same day, needless to say I am feeling a little rough this morning.

 

[Bullfrog]

Too much cake?

 

[Leafaholic99]

Too much cake?

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

 

[Darryl]

Emergency/police vehicles that turn on their lights just to get thru intersections.

 

[Scot4bz]

I guess it takes a rainy day to discover you have a hole in the sole of your shoe.....

 

[Big Daddy]

Emergency/police vehicles that turn on their lights just to get thru intersections.

I'm going to throw Fire-trucks who use their sirens and send a full team to a 911 medical emergency even when the ambulance is already at the scene.  Stop trying to inflate your call attendance stats for collective bargaining purposes.

... We get dispatched to all emergencies and work as one with other agencies upon arrival.  If you think two people is ALWAYS sufficient in medical emergencies your wrong.  ...

(personal attacks removed by cw)

 

[Leafaholic99]

Emergency/police vehicles that turn on their lights just to get thru intersections.

I'm going to throw Fire-trucks who use their sirens and send a full team to a 911 medical emergency even when the ambulance is already at the scene.  Stop trying to inflate your call attendance stats for collective bargaining purposes.

...  We get dispatched to all emergencies and work as one with other agencies upon arrival.  If you think two people is ALWAYS sufficient in medical emergencies your wrong.  ...

(personal attacks removed by cw)

Although your information is probably correct, you could have delivered it properly rather then personally attack another member.

 

[McPwnage]

Wow chill out guys

 

[Scot4bz]

Bad enough that the person who I "back up" at work takes mainly Mondays and Fridays off (when he has regular meetings that I end up having to chair - as opposed to his rescheduling or cancelling), but every time he is off the systems that he supports blow up.

Frustrating.........

 

[donkeyy0]

York University.

Limit the # of classes I can enroll in, but I can't audition for the classes unless I am enrolled. So...I've got two classes I am interested in taking, but...I can only enroll in 1. And if I don't get into the class I can't audition for the other one.

We'll wait till I get my results for my audition. If things don't go well...I'll have a serious complaint. There's 1 spot open in each class...15 applicants. Wicked. And I NEED at least one of these classes to graduate.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Seriously though.

York University.

 

[Sucker Punch]

Chicken soup has flat out defeated me.  The broth doesn't taste chickeny, it just tastes like salty water with herbs in it.

I roasted a chicken carcass, then used that to make the stock.  I also added a whole carton of chicken broth to it as well as three packets of chicken boullion powder.  It looks right, but doesn't taste like chicken soup.  Does anyone know the secret?  How the hell do you make chicken soup taste like chicken?

 

[maplesyrup]

Chicken soup has flat out defeated me.  The broth doesn't taste chickeny, it just tastes like salty water with herbs in it.

I roasted a chicken carcass, then used that to make the stock.  I also added a whole carton of chicken broth to it as well as three packets of chicken boullion powder.  It looks right, but doesn't taste like chicken soup.  Does anyone know the secret?  How the hell do you make chicken soup taste like chicken?

Did you remember all 3 components of the holy trinity?