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The Unofficial Fire Ron Wilson/Ron Wilson is the Greatest Thread

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Zee said:
crazyperfectdevil said:
Zee said:
Alright fine.  I'm not saying another word about firing Ron Wilson this season (provided the season doesn't suddenly go off the rails)

If they're at least in the hunt, he stays.  If he makes the playoffs he stays.

If the Leafs miss the playoffs again, you can bet i'll be in here calling for his firing.
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well i'm sure Ron is relieved to hear that
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Probably not, but cw might be.  ;)
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Your dislike of Ron or whatever it is you've got against Ron has often made me smile. I've found it kind of amusing. Sincerely.  :) And I do not mean that in a belittling way or negative way.

Andrew Raycroft and his molasses glove hand as a Leaf could get me going pretty quickly. Couldn't wait to see his fanny out of the ACC. I was done with JFJ nearly two full years before they axed him. Some of his puppetry interviews made me cringe worse than a screeching chalk board.

I can relate.  :)
 
Wilson's Press Scrum from yesterday

Wilson on having the players Dads along on the road trip (Paraphrased):
"And it's convenient because you guys can ask them about their kids injuries without having to waste a long distance phone call"

Some of the media in the scrum chuckled.

:)
 
The Leafs have cooled off far too much. They are heading towards another missed playoffs. The fastest way to shake things up these days is to fire the coach. I think Wilson will be gone soon after the Christmas break.
 
according to twitter reports, a new contract is being worked on for Wilson.

This one will probably be similar to the last one, in that no one will
be held accountable for the PK.
 
His salary should get multiplied by the pk% or pk% squared. More crappy 70% pk and he gets paid half.  :P

Or Burke could just not keep him because the pk has been garbage for 4 straight years and he has no answers regardless how much he gets paid. Extending Wilson now and then missing the playoffs again this year due to bad defensive and pk performance would be unacceptable IMO.
 
Fanatic said:
The Leafs have cooled off far too much. They are heading towards another missed playoffs. The fastest way to shake things up these
days is to fire the coach. I think Wilson will be gone soon after
the Christmas break.
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...and replaced by whom?  Dallas Eakins?
 
Tigger said:
Heh, figured this thread would come around after last night.

PP slipped to 3rd overall, fire Wilson!!!
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And the PK?

Fact: The team is slipping backwards in the standings.

Fact: The team has not made the playoffs in 6 years.

Assumption: If things stay as they are, they will miss the playoffs again this season.

Assumption: Burke and company believed that this team was good enough to make the playoffs this year.

Conclusion: Draw your own I suppose.
 
A couple bad games won't change my opinion that the Leafs are improving and developing.

They have a ways to go, sure, I doubt Burke ever believed this team was winning the cup and I also doubt he's done making it over by a long shot.

You have a nice day with your facts and assumptions, they don't say or mean much to me.
 
Tigger said:
A couple bad games won't change my opinion that the Leafs are improving and developing.

They have a ways to go, sure, I doubt Burke ever believed this team was winning the cup and I also doubt he's done making it over by a long shot.

You have a nice day with your facts and assumptions, they don't say or mean much to me.
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It happens after every loss. I will laugh when we become a revolving door for coaches a la the Ottawa Senators.

I still don't think firing the coach is a magic bullet, and could even be counter-productive.
 
Bender said:
I still don't think firing the coach is a magic bullet, and could even be counter-productive.
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I can see it if the team has tuned out the coach and what not but that sure doesn't seem to be the case with Toronto.

They had a real nice stretch of good pk'ing, don't know why they can't get back to it.

They take too many penalties for my liking but hey, something else to blame Wilson for... ;)
 
Tigger said:
They take too many penalties for my liking but hey, something else to blame Wilson for... ;)
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I agree 100%. Not sure if if this would eventually result in losing the room but would in not be a good idea for Wilson to take a hard line on dumb penalties. ie. careless use of sticks and other boneheadish-like things? Do something stupid, take a few shifts, a period, or a game off type of thing?
 
I think you saw a little of that, IIRC, Crabb's toi went down the game after he took a bad penalty.

I'm sure it's a common theme with all the clubs but some sure do seem to be better at it, have to give it some thought.
 
Tigger said:
A couple bad games won't change my opinion that the Leafs are improving and developing.

They have a ways to go, sure, I doubt Burke ever believed this team was winning the cup and I also doubt he's done making it over by a long shot.
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The pk isn't really improving at all that what's most frustrating right now because it is hindering the entire effort and causing the team to slip out of a playoff spot.

Patience has to run out at some point, and sooner rather than later because despite all the 'young team' hoopla 2/3 of our forward group are UFAs in a couple of years, and Kessel that we sold the farm for is an UFA the year after that.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
Fanatic said:
The Leafs have cooled off far too much. They are heading towards another missed playoffs. The fastest way to shake things up these days is to fire the coach. I think Wilson will be gone soon after the Christmas break.
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...and replaced by whom?  Dallas Eakins?
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I heard Terry Murray and Jacques Martin are available now  :P
 
Tigger said:
Bender said:
I still don't think firing the coach is a magic bullet, and could even be counter-productive.
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I can see it if the team has tuned out the coach and what not but that sure doesn't seem to be the case with Toronto.

They had a real nice stretch of good pk'ing, don't know why they can't get back to it.

They take too many penalties for my liking but hey, something else to blame Wilson for... ;)
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When basically everything else they are doing is going really really well and the one thing (PK) is really really bad, changing the HEAD coach makes little sense. 

Maybe they need to look at this Greg Cronin guy who is the PK coach... experiment failed? Make a change there. 

PK last night was one mistake per, and Buffalo capitalized every time. 

1. Schenn stupidly chasing the Sabers player up the boards for whatever reason.  + weak clearing attempt. Leaving his zone... he does this a lot, leaves Gardiner alone to deal with 2 men in front all the time.

2. 5 on 3, but a weak one to give up on the rush into the zone.  Paying too much attention to the guy down low, nobody saw Ennis.

3. Reimer was horrible
 
seahawk said:
I heard Terry Murray and Jacques Martin are available now  :P
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Jacques Martin, interesting.  Montreal who just fired him is only 2 pts behind us but their PK is 2nd in the league at almost 90%.
 
pnjunction said:
seahawk said:
I heard Terry Murray and Jacques Martin are available now  :P
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Jacques Martin, interesting.  Montreal who just fired him is only 2 pts behind us but their PK is 2nd in the league at almost 90%.
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They're still behind a team that has the lowest PK in the league. What does that tell you?

It tells me that if they shored up their PK they'd be a pretty damn good team while the Canadiens rely on their PK for success.

This has to be one of the first times I've read someone use a team that his LOWER than us in the standings to prove we're worse than they are.
 
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