Trade Deadline

[rdowdall]

Reading Corey Pronman's review of prospects traded yesterday, it sure sounds like both the guys New York got from Tampa are mid-level prospects. It's very difficult for me to believe that we couldn't have beaten that offer without giving up Kapanen/Dermott/Liljegren.

I think they almost certainly could have if anyone outside of the Maple Leafs front office knew who Yegor Korshkov was.

I wonder if there is something to that.  Yesterday, when I was responding to CtB's post, I was trying to articulate how Brett Howden could be viewed as a better prospect than Korshkov.  It just feels like Howden is more well known, and therefore seems to have more value. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I think they almost certainly could have if anyone outside of the Maple Leafs front office knew who Yegor Korshkov was.

You mean if they drafted Jordan Kyrou or Alex DeBrincat or Jonathan Dahlen or Janne Kuokkanen or Samuel Girard or Carter Hart or Kale Clague or Filip Gustavsson or Dillon Dube instead?

Maybe. Hindsight is 20/20 though.

 

[herman]

Reading Corey Pronman's review of prospects traded yesterday, it sure sounds like both the guys New York got from Tampa are mid-level prospects. It's very difficult for me to believe that we couldn't have beaten that offer without giving up Kapanen/Dermott/Liljegren.

I think they almost certainly could have if anyone outside of the Maple Leafs front office knew who Yegor Korshkov was.

That's the double-edged sword of panning for gold so far off the beaten path.
Triple cliche score, right there.

 

[Kin]

That's the double-edged sword of panning for gold so far off the beaten path.

You know who used to pan for gold? People who couldn't afford mining equipment.

 

[herman]

That's the double-edged sword of panning for gold so far off the beaten path.

You know who used to pan for gold? People who couldn't afford mining equipment.

Also people who didn't want to draw that much attention to a potential vein.

 

[Kin]

That's the double-edged sword of panning for gold so far off the beaten path.

You know who used to pan for gold? People who couldn't afford mining equipment.

Also people who didn't want to draw that much attention to a potential vein.

Well, no, because if it was a legitimate claim you could work the land however you wanted. Primarily panning was done to prove the worth of a claim before selling it to someone who'd work it properly and by wildcatting prospectors just looking to sell what they found.

There's a chance I watched too much of Ken Burns' The West.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Well, no, because if it was a legitimate claim you could work the land however you wanted. Primarily panning was done to prove the worth of a claim before selling it to someone who'd work it properly and by wildcatting prospectors just looking to sell what they found.

There's a chance I watched too much of Ken Burns' The West.

This is what I got from watching Deadwood too.

 

[herman]

I only learn about the power of friendship, teamwork, and believing in yourself from tv.

 

[Highlander]

I only learn about the power of friendship, teamwork, and believing in yourself from tv.

For me comic books!

 

[nutman]

I am so glad we did not spend the farm for a quick fix. I like the defense we have coming up from our farm system.  Our goalie and forwards will get us to the second round this year and that was the plan, so I for one am good with this.

 

[Kin]

You mean if they drafted Jordan Kyrou or Alex DeBrincat or Jonathan Dahlen or Janne Kuokkanen or Samuel Girard or Carter Hart or Kale Clague or Filip Gustavsson or Dillon Dube instead?

Hey man, anyone can make the "smart" decision. Sometimes you want to really explore the studio with your decision making process. Get weird with it. What if an office is also a submarine?

 

[herman]

I only learn about the power of friendship, teamwork, and believing in yourself from tv.

For me comic books!

I've also gained unreasonable expectations of forensic science and zoom/enhance technology available to videos.

 

[ZBBM]

You guys are hurting my brain with all your wild, scary thoughts.

 

[Zee]

I'm sort of glad the Leafs stood pat yesterday as I didn't want to ship out young guys like Kapanen, Dermott or Liljegren as some of the bigger rumors were throwing out there.  I want to see how Kapanen and Dermott especially do down the stretch and into the playoffs.  Why ship out a package of your own talent for a "big name" and then see that package of players flourish into real good players?  Hopefully this team continues to grow together in the right direction.

 

[Bullfrog]

I saw it as a two-step process:

1. Sell some UFAs for futures (picks and/or prospects.)
2. Buy some quality talent.

With step one, I would have been glad to move even one of the upcoming UFAs. JvR would obviously net the best return, but even Bozak should have gotten a 2nd rounder and a mid-level prospect.

Step two didn't even have to happen for me to be satisfied. But it would have been a bonus, particularly if they moved two or more of the UFAs.

I'm bummed out neither happened. And, honestly, I'm bummed that we didn't get McDonagh, even though I knew chances weren't great. He's the exact type of player I think the team needs. I don't think this team really needs a Karlsson or Doughty calibre player, but he would have been a huge upgrade.

 

[Kin]

I'm sort of glad the Leafs stood pat yesterday as I didn't want to ship out young guys like Kapanen, Dermott or Liljegren as some of the bigger rumors were throwing out there.

These things are never binary. There were all manners of approaches the Leafs could have taken. Presenting it as "I'm glad the Leafs didn't make a trade as opposed to trading Auston Matthews for a bag of used dishrags" seems to really just be fighting strawmen.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I'm sort of glad the Leafs stood pat yesterday as I didn't want to ship out young guys like Kapanen, Dermott or Liljegren as some of the bigger rumors were throwing out there.

I mean this has been said before but it really doesn't feel like the guy most of us are bummed we didn't get would have required any of those pieces.

 

[Kin]

I can only speak for myself but I never once heard Liljegren or Dermott mentioned in anything close to a credible rumour. Some people mentioned them as potential pieces for a Karlsson deal but that was never happening.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Lou:

?There's no question the development of Dermott has played a role in a lot of our thought process,? Lamoriello said, before later adding on a radio appearance, ?When he did come in and get an opportunity, I mean, he made an immediate impact. That was the thought process when we were looking at maybe seeing if we should and could make us better in that area. Right now we feel very good about our defence.?

This is like me saying "right now I feel very good about being single" after my crush checks 'no' on the slip of paper I just handed her (people still do that, right??).

We can be pretty certain that the Leafs made an offer on McDonagh, and it was probably a half-decent one. So they can't feel THAT good about the defence. They're aware it needs upgrading, Lou's obviously not going to say that in front of a mic at this point and time though.

 

[ZBBM]

At least Lou didn't make a crazydumb move, reverting to his final years in Jersey.  Although in saying that, I guess I am mostly agreeing with Nik that the current front office hasn't really pulled off a trade or signing of note since Andersen.  I was willing to let them dine out on that for this deadline, but starting this summer they need to show us they can add the pieces needed to make the team a top-tier contender.  Then we'll see how shrewd they really are.