Training Camp: September 16 - October 1
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Britishbulldog
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cw said:
Out of those players I believe only Kadri is ready to try.
Dupuis played here in Moncton and scored over 100 pts in 56 games. I really hope Caputi can stick as well for he had 111 pts and 107 pims in 66 games his last year in the OHL. I also read somewhere that Caputi is 215+ now with his 6'3" frame.
Using those 2 guys with Brown on the 4th line should be solid. If Boyce, who has offense and toughness, and Crabb get the 4th line duties then I feel Caputi should be moved.
I seem to recall that Lashoff was touted as a 6'2" dman with offensive abilities when he was scouted his draft year. He seemed to add an edge which caused him to be leading the Marlies in pims when he was called to the Leafs. I don't really know what I want to see happen on the defense.
Beowulf
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Bender said:
Also, last season Schenn was ranked 78th in total points and 43rd in even strength points among d-men; 22 of his 23 points came at even strength, and the other one came shorthanded.
Schenn averaged :59 of PP time/game, most of the d-men ranked ahead of him overall points had significantly more powerplay time and all of them had powerplay points.
So like cw said, he could easily break the 30 pt plateau with a bit more of a regular PP shift, and also if he continues to grow and improve the offensive side of his game.
I am really curious to see how our D plays out this year. I know everyone likes to think they have the answer but really, we have no idea.
Ideally, we toss Komi and his $4.5M salary to the wind but that's just not happening (yet).
Should be really interesting to see the top 6 on opening night.
Ideally, we toss Komi and his $4.5M salary to the wind but that's just not happening (yet).
Should be really interesting to see the top 6 on opening night.
Busta Reims said:
I don't disagree with you, but guys like Robyn Regehr (3 times), Brooks Orpik, Scott Hannan (5 times), Hal Gill (twice), etc all scored 20+ points but never reached 30, and they are all defensive crease clearing presence.
Sometimes those points are mostly a product of ice time.
We obviously don't know about Schenn yet but I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed as a 20-25 point guy but really become one of the elite defensive d-men in the league.
Erndog said:
I think the D is by far the most difficult to predict. They could be better, worse or about the same. I'm struggling a little with how they'll fit together.
I think the forwards (Lupul for a full season, Connolly, Lomdardi for part of the season + a year of development from the kids like Kadri & Frattin) and goaltending (Reimer > Giguere) have improved over last season.
bustaheims
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Erndog said:
Sometimes, yeah, it's a function of ice time, but, I think we've all seen enough of Schenn to be able to say that there's more to it for him than that. He's shown some very good offensive instincts in his time in Blue & White - especially last season.
Also, in comparison to the other guys you mentioned, Schenn cracked 20 points in his 3rd full season and had a career low of 14 at the time. It took Regehr 6 years, with a career low of 4. Orpik 6 years with a career low of 6. Gill 5 years with a career low of 6. To me, that says Schenn is further along the development path offensively than any of these guys or has more offensive skills in his repertoire. Hannan is the closest comparable in that he cracked 20 in his 3rd full season as will (though 5th season getting NHL games in) and his lowest full season to that point was also 14, but, at the same time, he was 23/24 when he accomplished it, whereas Schenn was 21/22. I don't think Schenn is going to be an offensive stud by any means, but, I can definitely see him in a similar mould to someone like Seidenberg, who is still a defence first guy, but, has been producing in the 25-35 point range for a few seasons now.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I see what you are saying. I think somehow, they piece together a good enough top 6. I don't know 4-5 months from now who will play with who, or how the ice time will be divided up but I think we will manage to piece together a decent-to-good top 6 one way or another.
Up front we are surely improved from last season but are we good enough? Like you said, Connolly and/or Lombardi may not pan out and it's possible someone regresses (i.e. Mac? Maybe Grabs? Lupul might get hurt, etc). We still need quite a bit to go our way up front.
Bender said:
I don't know about this. I mean, he's 23 years old and while last season was kind of a write-off because of his injury, he'll be entering his 4th professional season. Will another year of seasoning in the AHL really help him at this point? The answer could definitely be 'yes', especially because of his injury woes, but if he's NHL ready then I don't see the harm in playing him on the 4th line. He has size and I don't remember him being bad defensively. I think I'd rather have him on the 4th line then say two of Boyce and Dupuis. He can hit, provide some offense, and move up in the line-up if someone is struggling during a game.
edit: From what I understand, he'll also have to clear waivers to go down to the AHL. And while he's certainly not as highly regarded as he once was, a team might take a chance on him if he's available for nothing.
First Cuts (23):
To the AHL (10): Engel, Acton, Wilson Caruana, Brenner, Devane, Irwin, Cowan, Neuber, Urban
To Junior (9): Broll, Crescenzi, Carrick, Leivo, Nicholls, Olden, Percy, Ross, Sparks
Released (4): Clarke, Heard, Schwindt, Stanisz
Per Jonas Seigl
Edit: added Schwindt, Stanisz to released players
To the AHL (10): Engel, Acton, Wilson Caruana, Brenner, Devane, Irwin, Cowan, Neuber, Urban
To Junior (9): Broll, Crescenzi, Carrick, Leivo, Nicholls, Olden, Percy, Ross, Sparks
Released (4): Clarke, Heard, Schwindt, Stanisz
Per Jonas Seigl
Edit: added Schwindt, Stanisz to released players
BlueWhiteBlood
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Deebo said:
I'm surprised at two things; that Greg Scott didn't get sent to the AHL and that Heard didn't at least earn an EL from the Leafs.
I'm glad they decided to give McKegg a game, because out of everybody, he probably deserves it most. I wonder why Devane didn't get into tonight's game against the Flyer's? He probably should have gotten a game and could have come in handy against the big Flyer's team.
