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Zee said:CarltonTheBear said:I'd even rather have Horton over Clarkson. At least with Horton you know you're getting a top-6 forward. I have a serious problem overpaying for 3rd liners. Look at every Stanley Cup finalist in the past 5 years and find me more than 2 overpaid players (total) in a teams bottom-6 group of forwards.
Why not both? Horton and Clarkson.
mr grieves said:You don't think the cap will at least reign in the UFA deals a bit?
mr grieves said:Huh. Nik had convinced me giving up Scrivens and Frattin -- while retaining another half of a million in salary -- wasn't so bad... now I'm not so sure.
Tigger said:A phantasy 'trade Grabbo get Lecavalier' world... the defence isn't ideal ( the kids are pretty much placeholders )
FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($6.027m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.851m) / Nathan Horton ($5.250m)
Joe Colborne ($0.927m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Boyd Gordon ($1.725m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
Ryan Hamilton ($0.700m) / Frazer McLaren ($0.796m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Carl Gunnarsson ($2.550m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($2.800m)
Mark Fraser ($0.960m) / Morgan Rielly ($1.744m)
Jesse Blacker ($0.870m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($1.800m)
Jonathan Bernier ($2.025m)
OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
Matt Frattin ($0.437m?0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m?0.1%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,641,231; BONUSES: $1,310,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $968,769
Tigger said:Probably not, still it's interesting to see what they can do at this point, cap wise.
BlueWhiteBlood said:Tigger said:A phantasy 'trade Grabbo get Lecavalier' world... the defence isn't ideal ( the kids are pretty much placeholders )
FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($6.027m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.851m) / Nathan Horton ($5.250m)
Joe Colborne ($0.927m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Boyd Gordon ($1.725m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
Ryan Hamilton ($0.700m) / Frazer McLaren ($0.796m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Carl Gunnarsson ($2.550m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($2.800m)
Mark Fraser ($0.960m) / Morgan Rielly ($1.744m)
Jesse Blacker ($0.870m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($1.800m)
Jonathan Bernier ($2.025m)
OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
Matt Frattin ($0.437m?0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m?0.1%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,641,231; BONUSES: $1,310,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $968,769
I'd love that team, but.... I don't think we'll get Vincent.
RedLeaf said:It's pretty clear to me, after that epic collapse against the Bruins, that above all else, we need better defence and more shutdown type players. Bolland may help in that department, and perhaps Horton, but I really think a veteran D man or two should be the next priority.
BlueWhiteBlood said:RedLeaf said:It's pretty clear to me, after that epic collapse against the Bruins, that above all else, we need better defence and more shutdown type players. Bolland may help in that department, and perhaps Horton, but I really think a veteran D man or two should be the next priority.
If we had that line-up above, I don't think we'd need to upgrade the defense personally. If you could get a veteran at or around the same price, sure, I'd do it, but I don't think it's necessary.
We're stronger in goal and we'd be very strong up front.
RedLeaf said:BlueWhiteBlood said:RedLeaf said:It's pretty clear to me, after that epic collapse against the Bruins, that above all else, we need better defence and more shutdown type players. Bolland may help in that department, and perhaps Horton, but I really think a veteran D man or two should be the next priority.
If we had that line-up above, I don't think we'd need to upgrade the defense personally. If you could get a veteran at or around the same price, sure, I'd do it, but I don't think it's necessary.
We're stronger in goal and we'd be very strong up front.
But that's not gonna prevent defensive breakdowns like we saw on many occasions last season. The offence wasn't the problem. Sure the goaltending might get better, but I think they really need at least one 1st or 2nd pairing veteran defenseman to augment that back end.
RedLeaf said:BlueWhiteBlood said:Tigger said:A phantasy 'trade Grabbo get Lecavalier' world... the defence isn't ideal ( the kids are pretty much placeholders )
FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($6.027m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.851m) / Nathan Horton ($5.250m)
Joe Colborne ($0.927m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Boyd Gordon ($1.725m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
Ryan Hamilton ($0.700m) / Frazer McLaren ($0.796m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Carl Gunnarsson ($2.550m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($2.800m)
Mark Fraser ($0.960m) / Morgan Rielly ($1.744m)
Jesse Blacker ($0.870m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($1.800m)
Jonathan Bernier ($2.025m)
OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
Matt Frattin ($0.437m?0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m?0.1%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,641,231; BONUSES: $1,310,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $968,769
I'd love that team, but.... I don't think we'll get Vincent.
It's pretty clear to me, after that epic collapse against the Bruins, that above all else, we need better defence and more shutdown type players. Bolland may help in that department, and perhaps Horton, but I really think a veteran D man or two should be the next priority.
Tigger said:Adding Gordon would also be along those lines.