Unofficial 2013-2014 Armchair GM Thread
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Zee said:
The rest of my post explains why. I don't want to overpay for a third liner.
mr grieves said:
Everybody knows that the cap going down is a one-year thing. It will go up quite a bit next offseason. Some guys might get screwed over because of it, but it's the players that are being bought out and the more minor free agents.
BlueWhiteBlood
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I really hope that Nonis is talking to Joe Sakic about Stastny. They drafted McKinnon like people thought and I forget which of the two, but Roy or Sakic said they want Dushene and McKinnon on their top two lines. That leaves Stastny and O'rielly (who as was pointed out to me can't be traded for another year) as their #3 center. So at 6.6 million, it would almost seem imperative that they trade Paul.
I know they're not in the hurry that Nonis would be, as he'd have to make a move right after acquiring Stastny, as Grabbo would most certainly have to be traded or bought out IMO.
It just seems like the next logical thing to do, unless Nonis knows he's got LeCavalier in the bag, which I'm sure is a long shot anyway.
I know they're not in the hurry that Nonis would be, as he'd have to make a move right after acquiring Stastny, as Grabbo would most certainly have to be traded or bought out IMO.
It just seems like the next logical thing to do, unless Nonis knows he's got LeCavalier in the bag, which I'm sure is a long shot anyway.
A phantasy 'trade Grabbo get Lecavalier' world... the defence isn't ideal ( the kids are pretty much placeholders )
FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($6.027m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.851m) / Nathan Horton ($5.250m)
Joe Colborne ($0.927m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Boyd Gordon ($1.725m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
Ryan Hamilton ($0.700m) / Frazer McLaren ($0.796m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Carl Gunnarsson ($2.550m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($2.800m)
Mark Fraser ($0.960m) / Morgan Rielly ($1.744m)
Jesse Blacker ($0.870m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($1.800m)
Jonathan Bernier ($2.025m)
OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
Matt Frattin ($0.437m?0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m?0.1%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,641,231; BONUSES: $1,310,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $968,769
FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($6.027m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.851m) / Nathan Horton ($5.250m)
Joe Colborne ($0.927m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Boyd Gordon ($1.725m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
Ryan Hamilton ($0.700m) / Frazer McLaren ($0.796m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Carl Gunnarsson ($2.550m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($2.800m)
Mark Fraser ($0.960m) / Morgan Rielly ($1.744m)
Jesse Blacker ($0.870m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($1.800m)
Jonathan Bernier ($2.025m)
OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
Matt Frattin ($0.437m?0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m?0.1%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,641,231; BONUSES: $1,310,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $968,769
BlueWhiteBlood
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Tigger said:
I'd love that team, but.... I don't think we'll get Vincent.
BlueWhiteBlood
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Tigger said:
Yeah, Burke left the Leafs in good cap shape from where I'm looking. Along with the cap space, it is good timing that the cap also going down can perhaps create availability in other places, as teams cut loose more valuable players to clean up passed mistakes or just being a deep team.
I think that is why Nonis is waiting on any buyouts. He might want to buyout Komisarek, but if a big time player gets cut loose, like LeCavalier has, the Leafs can act on it, but also take a problem from another team might be more lucrative a deal for us. So he has to maybe deal with Komisarek at the last possible chance, to leave open to other avenues.
Redleaf
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BlueWhiteBlood said:
It's pretty clear to me, after that epic collapse against the Bruins, that above all else, we need better defence and more shutdown type players. Bolland may help in that department, and perhaps Horton, but I really think a veteran D man or two should be the next priority.
BlueWhiteBlood
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RedLeaf said:
If we had that line-up above, I don't think we'd need to upgrade the defense personally. If you could get a veteran at or around the same price, sure, I'd do it, but I don't think it's necessary.
We're stronger in goal and we'd be very strong up front.
Redleaf
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BlueWhiteBlood said:
But that's not gonna prevent defensive breakdowns like we saw on many occasions last season. The offence wasn't the problem. Sure the goaltending might get better, but I think they really need at least one 1st or 2nd pairing veteran defenseman to augment that back end.
BlueWhiteBlood
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RedLeaf said:
Well, I hope that if Nonis does that that it will include trading Liles, Gunnarsson and buying out Komisarek. Not to mention acquisition cost, that would be steep as it is.
Tigger said:
I like Gordon as well if the price is right.
Extending the Boston theme for a moment, JVR is the only big top 6 forward we have and Kulemin is a decent size. Apparently, the Rags can't afford the cap space for Clowe. Penner & Horton also seem ready to test UFA waters. Claskson isn't as big but plays bigger than he is. I could debate the merits of those guys. But there do seem to be a few more good sized forwards available for the top 9 than normal. Hopefully, we can snag one that fits at a decent price.
Agreed. That's exactly what I would do as well. I'd prefer Scuderi to Ference since he can play the right side with Gardiner, but Ference seems like the more likely player to sign.
Just a line-up note though, I'd prefer Lupul and JVR to switch. JVR is more physical and better defensively. The Kadri-Kessel line could use that more than the second line since Grabovski and Horton both possess one of those traits already.
Just a line-up note though, I'd prefer Lupul and JVR to switch. JVR is more physical and better defensively. The Kadri-Kessel line could use that more than the second line since Grabovski and Horton both possess one of those traits already.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2013/06/30/20941586.html
?We are working on some things that might free up some (salary) cap space and if that happens, it will have an impact (on what the Leafs might do in free agency),? Nonis said on Sunday. ?We?re definitely going to look at our options between now and Friday at every position and there might be some things that open up, more likely via trade. I think teams are going to leave New Jersey and take stock of what they have.
?It?s not going to go quiet after today.?
In terms of current contracts beyond Komisarek over $2 mil that could "free up some cap space", I doubt these are likely even though "anyone is tradeable":
Kessel, Phil ? $5,400,000
Lupul, Joffrey ? $5,250,000
Van Riemsdyk, J. ? $4,250,000
Bolland, Dave ? $3,375,000
which leaves these:
Grabovski, M. ? $5,500,000
Kulemin, Nikolai ? $2,800,000
Phaneuf, Dion ? $6,500,000
Liles, J. ? $3,875,000
and I'd even question Kulemin & Phaneuf being on that list but anything is possible I suppose.
From those remarks, I suspect it's even more unlikely that Bozak has a future in Toronto (if a remote chance existed after the Bolland trade)
?We are working on some things that might free up some (salary) cap space and if that happens, it will have an impact (on what the Leafs might do in free agency),? Nonis said on Sunday. ?We?re definitely going to look at our options between now and Friday at every position and there might be some things that open up, more likely via trade. I think teams are going to leave New Jersey and take stock of what they have.
?It?s not going to go quiet after today.?
In terms of current contracts beyond Komisarek over $2 mil that could "free up some cap space", I doubt these are likely even though "anyone is tradeable":
Kessel, Phil ? $5,400,000
Lupul, Joffrey ? $5,250,000
Van Riemsdyk, J. ? $4,250,000
Bolland, Dave ? $3,375,000
which leaves these:
Grabovski, M. ? $5,500,000
Kulemin, Nikolai ? $2,800,000
Phaneuf, Dion ? $6,500,000
Liles, J. ? $3,875,000
and I'd even question Kulemin & Phaneuf being on that list but anything is possible I suppose.
From those remarks, I suspect it's even more unlikely that Bozak has a future in Toronto (if a remote chance existed after the Bolland trade)
louisstamos
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Just out of curiosity - what is Fraser McLaren's status? NHLnumbers says he's a UFA IV, but Capgeek says he's an RFA.