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Unofficial 2013-2014 Armchair GM Thread

I do not think you buyout Clarkson based upon one season. Due to injuries, suspensions and how Carlyle has used him he has had  a bad season. Sometimes it takes a year to adjust. If JFJ had not paniced after one season we might still have Rask. Plus get to playoffs and Clarkson will prove his worth. The cost for buyout would be prohibitive through 2025.
 
Robidas has 4 points in 7 games with the Ducks since returning from his injury. He's averaging 19:06 of ice-time in those 7 games but that number is rising. Scored the game-winning overtime goal in their comeback victory over Winnipeg last night, and he was 2nd on the team in ice-time for the game.

Early results make it seem like he's recovered from that injury. Hopefully the Leafs chase him hard if he makes it to July 1st.
 
What do you think he'd cost? You wouldn't want to have a lot of term there but he has qualities the Leafs could use for sure.
 
Tigger said:
What do you think he'd cost? You wouldn't want to have a lot of term there but he has qualities the Leafs could use for sure.
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He's 37 years old coming off a long injury, so I'm sure he'll only get a 1 or 2 year contract. His current contract was a 4-year deal with a $3.3mil cap hit but the salary in his final year dropped to $2.85mil. So it'll probably be somewhere around that. Chris Phillips recently signed a 2-year extension with a $2.5mil cap hit. Salvador is 38 and in year 2 of a 3 year deal with a $3.16mil cap hit. Rozsival signed a 2 year deal last summer for $2.2mil per.

So yeah, probably 2 years for say $3mil per.
 
No way do you want to get rid of Clarkson.  Leaf fans will always be Leaf fans.  But a guy like Clarkson gives entertainment value.  The Leafs follies are so hilarious, they're entertainment for the whole country like no other team can provide.  No wonder they get so much air time in this country.  Toronto is so good at this, they've implemented in other sports as well as politics.
 
68 mil cap, traded Lupul for something, shaved a little cap space with McClement, Holland and Bodie from before.

Adding some overall D while trying to mitigate the loss of offense some, sorta, whatever.

FORWARDS

James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Peter Holland ($1.100m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.800m)
Vernon Fiddler ($2.500m) / Dave Bolland ($3.500m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Troy Bodie ($0.700m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / l komarov ($2.500m)
Jerry D'Amigo ($0.851m) / David Broll ($0.591m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m)
Stephane Robidas ($3.000m) / Jake Gardiner ($2.200m)
Tim Gleason ($4.000m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
Paul Ranger ($1.200m) /

GOALTENDERS

Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
p Hjolder ($1.000m)

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SALARY CAP: $68,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,985,500; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,014,500
 
Tigger said:
68 mil cap, traded Lupul for something, shaved a little cap space with McClement, Holland and Bodie from before.

Adding some overall D while trying to mitigate the loss of offense some, sorta, whatever.

FORWARDS

James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Peter Holland ($1.100m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.800m)
Vernon Fiddler ($2.500m) / Dave Bolland ($3.500m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Troy Bodie ($0.700m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / l komarov ($2.500m)
Jerry D'Amigo ($0.851m) / David Broll ($0.591m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m)
Stephane Robidas ($3.000m) / Jake Gardiner ($2.200m)
Tim Gleason ($4.000m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
Paul Ranger ($1.200m) /

GOALTENDERS

Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
p Hjolder ($1.000m)

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SALARY CAP: $68,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,985,500; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,014,500
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Why get rid of Holland and add fiddler?  Holland would score as many points for less and could fill in at center if injury strikes.
 
Rebel_1812 said:
Tigger said:
68 mil cap, traded Lupul for something, shaved a little cap space with McClement, Holland and Bodie from before.

Adding some overall D while trying to mitigate the loss of offense some, sorta, whatever.

FORWARDS

James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Peter Holland ($1.100m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.800m)
Vernon Fiddler ($2.500m) / Dave Bolland ($3.500m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Troy Bodie ($0.700m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / l komarov ($2.500m)
Jerry D'Amigo ($0.851m) / David Broll ($0.591m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m)
Stephane Robidas ($3.000m) / Jake Gardiner ($2.200m)
Tim Gleason ($4.000m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
Paul Ranger ($1.200m) /

GOALTENDERS

Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
p Hjolder ($1.000m)

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SALARY CAP: $68,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,985,500; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,014,500
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Why get rid of Holland and add fiddler?  Holland would score as many points for less and could fill in at center if injury strikes.
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I like the concept -- roll over the roster for futures.  Of course, that lineup won't be making the playoffs.  Just imagine if JVR or Kessel gets injured.  That 3rd line won't provide any offense.  I'd certainly look in to how much Raymond wants vs Bolland or Fiddler. 
 
princedpw said:
I like the concept -- roll over the roster for futures.  Of course, that lineup won't be making the playoffs.  Just imagine if JVR or Kessel gets injured.  That 3rd line won't provide any offense.  I'd certainly look in to how much Raymond wants vs Bolland or Fiddler.
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I don't think the Leafs will sign Bolland and Fiddler ( Clarkson, well, he has to be dealt with somehow for a bit... ) but having some depth isn't a bad idea and Fiddler is still pretty effective. I'm also not convinced I want Bolland over Reimer yet ( nor whether it's even a choice ), however, Raymond will probably get 3 mil somewhere and I'm fairly certain he's not worth it for the Leafs.

Not making the playoffs is ok with me for one more year at least.

If the Leafs can't make the playoffs due to injury to either JVR or Kessel, well, they just really aren't that good are they?
 
Even with how the year ended with the collapse I like the top 2 line of the Leafs and would like to keep them together so I hope Kulemin is re-signed and left on the RW by whoever is coach next year.  I also think that Lupul hasn't been himself this year health-wise.  I thought he was injured just before the season started but I couldn't find it on the 'net so I might be remembering it wrong.  I love Lupul's creative skill, tenacity and hockey IQ.

3rd line is where I hope that Bolland and Raymond are NOT re-signed.  I suspect that we are stuck with Clarkson.  I would like to see Holland get a chance to center that line for around $1 MIL.  I was going to post last week, after I saw a report from Winnipeg, that it would be interesting to see if the Leafs could give E Kane, whose current value is at an all time low, a new lease on life in Toronto with Reimer and dependable Gunnarsson going the other way.  Not only was Kane being rumoured that he might get moved, Pavelec was rumoured to getting moved with retained salary or bought out after this horrific year.

For the 4th line, I was wondering if Komarov could center it with Bodie on the RW and depending on who the Leafs were playing McLaren as a fighter or D'Amigo/Ashton if the other team doesn't dress a goon.  I would like to see Trevor Smith re-signed for the other 'press box' player.

On defense, I don't know what to think.  I know I would like to see some RH, good skating dmen who can make smart passes to augment Rielly and Gardiner.  I am really not excited about Phaneuf and his poor decision making, poor leadership qualities, etc but I think the Leafs are stuck with him.  In my fantasy world I would like to see Phaneuf sent with the Leafs 1st pick either to Edmonton for their 1st pick to draft Ekblad or to Nashville for Shea Weber but neither would work in the real world.  I also think the Leafs are stuck with Gleason.

I was wondering if the Leafs could flip big bodied, RH, PP specialist, RFA Franson for a less offensively minded, meaner RH, RFA dman like Gudbranson. 

That would leave around $5.5 MIL to find a top pairing dman.  I just hope Nonis doesn't use any assets to bring in a player born later than 1985 as the Leafs are not ready to contend.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER

FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($3.250m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / Peter Holland ($0.925m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Carter Ashton ($0.925m) / Leo Komarov ($2.000m) / Troy Bodie ($0.800m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.700m) / Trevor Smith ($0.600m)​

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m) / T op Dman ($5.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($2.200m) / Erik Gudbranson ($2.200m)
Tim Gleason ($4.000m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
Paul Ranger ($1.000m)​

GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
Drew MacIntyre ($0.800m)
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BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,794,167; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $305,833
 
The other options with Gleason could be retaining salary in a trade or the obvious buyout.

Even with $2 MIL being retained per year in a deal, Andrew MacWilliam could be brought up who plays a similar style but is less than $1 MIL saving the Leafs cap an extra $1 MIL.

The buyout looks like this and would save the Leafs even more cap space:
Tim Gleason buyout from CapGeek.com
2014-15: $833,333
2015-16: $1,833,333
2016-17: $1,333,333
2017-18: $1,333,333
 
Britishbulldog said:
The other options with Gleason could be retaining salary in a trade or the obvious buyout.

Even with $2 MIL being retained per year in a deal, Andrew MacWilliam could be brought up who plays a similar style but is less than $1 MIL saving the Leafs cap an extra $1 MIL.

The buyout looks like this and would save the Leafs even more cap space:
Tim Gleason buyout from CapGeek.com
2014-15: $833,333
2015-16: $1,833,333
2016-17: $1,333,333
2017-18: $1,333,333
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What's wrong with keeping Gleason? He's serviceable in my mind. I would have to have a very solid replacement with that cap hit in order to do it. I wouldn't do it just because.

I seriously feel he gives a shit out there and that's not easy to find on our team recently.
 
losveratos said:
Britishbulldog said:
The other options with Gleason could be retaining salary in a trade or the obvious buyout.

Even with $2 MIL being retained per year in a deal, Andrew MacWilliam could be brought up who plays a similar style but is less than $1 MIL saving the Leafs cap an extra $1 MIL.

The buyout looks like this and would save the Leafs even more cap space:
Tim Gleason buyout from CapGeek.com
2014-15: $833,333
2015-16: $1,833,333
2016-17: $1,333,333
2017-18: $1,333,333
Click to expand...

What's wrong with keeping Gleason? He's serviceable in my mind. I would have to have a very solid replacement with that cap hit in order to do it. I wouldn't do it just because.

I seriously feel he gives a shit out there and that's not easy to find on our team recently.
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The only reason to move him would be for cap space but this year there is room cap-wise to keep him, he blocked shots fearlessly like Fraser used to, has a decent hockey IQ when making plays and is an underrated fighter.  If his balance keeps getting better from the inner ear problem healing, he will likely demonstrate the mobility needed in today's NHL.

I actually grew to like Gleason's addition to the team after seeing him play a few games for the Leafs.  If money was tight with the Leafs the $4 MIL cap hit would be tough, but it isn't an issue next year.
 
Unless it is proven Phaneuf was playing hurt for the past month or so, I really think it may be time to start looking at trading him. If there are suitable replacements out there for Franson and Dion, this team could have a whole new foundation on the back end from which to build.

I'd keep Reilly, Gardiner, Gunnarson, and Ranger (who has started to look much better of late)

Tack on 2 solid puck moving, hard-hitting D-men and you may have the nucleus of something much better than we had this season.
 
losveratos said:
Britishbulldog said:
The other options with Gleason could be retaining salary in a trade or the obvious buyout.

Even with $2 MIL being retained per year in a deal, Andrew MacWilliam could be brought up who plays a similar style but is less than $1 MIL saving the Leafs cap an extra $1 MIL.

The buyout looks like this and would save the Leafs even more cap space:
Tim Gleason buyout from CapGeek.com
2014-15: $833,333
2015-16: $1,833,333
2016-17: $1,333,333
2017-18: $1,333,333
Click to expand...

What's wrong with keeping Gleason? He's serviceable in my mind. I would have to have a very solid replacement with that cap hit in order to do it. I wouldn't do it just because.

I seriously feel he gives a shit out there and that's not easy to find on our team recently.
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You and I could go out there and care more than everyone else but we'd still be terrible.  Gleason isn't very good, but gets more of a pass for some reason because any player who is half-way "gritty" is given the benefit of the doubt.  Maybe if he was getting all of the toughest minutes you'd give him more of a pass, but he's not.  So really all he is is a slow, defensive defenseman who you can't trust to match up with the other team's best, who can't provide much offense.

Consider the fact that at 5 on 5, in 530ish minutes, he's been on the ice for 15 more goals against than goals for.  At 5 on 5, Phaneuf has been on for 4 more goals for than against.  Gunnarsson has been on for 7 more for than against.  Gardiner has been on for 3 more for than against.

Rielly is next worst on the team at -7 GF/GA differential, Ranger is -2.  But Gleason is -15!
 
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