Wayne Simmonds incidents

[Bender]

I want to live in your world where everything is so black and white.  I wouldn't get my feelings hurt so much.

It's not a matter of black and white - there are literally hundreds of other ways to insult people without bringing things like race and sexual orientation to the table. There's no need for intolerance when there are so many other options available.

Well... can I play devil's advocate here? I mean, people still call other people "retard" or a "bitch." I think both these terms have their own issues. Retard insofar as you're comparing the person to someone with a mental handicap, and bitch is, moreso than anything else, a reference to gender.

 

[Kin]

Is there no cosideration given to context?

Of course there is. Everyone who is talking about this is putting it in the context of what is and isn't acceptable over the course of a hockey game which is, of course, the correct context.

 

[oldman]

I want to live in your world where everything is so black and white.  I wouldn't get my feelings hurt so much.

It's not a matter of black and white - there are literally hundreds of other ways to insult people without bringing things like race and sexual orientation to the table. There's no need for intolerance when there are so many other options available.

Well... can I play devil's advocate here? I mean, people still call other people "retard" or a "bitch." I think both these terms have their own issues. Retard insofar as you're comparing the person to someone with a mental handicap, and bitch is, moreso than anything else, a reference to gender.

Thats where I would would consider fa*%$t would be, with calling someone a bitch, retard, @sshole or mother f'er all juvenile name calling. Those in my mind are far from calling a black guy the N word which is more a racial thing.
Avery is a punk and will never get any respect from me so maybe I'm biased. Besides what is worse, calling someone a f*&^$t on the ice or threatening to kill someone like Avery did? 

 

[WAYNEINIONA]

London news is now reporting that at least 4 people have come forward and identified the banana thrower by name which has not been released at this time.

 

[Kin]

Besides what is worse, calling someone a f*&^$t on the ice or threatening to kill someone like Avery did?

For those of you playing at home, the correct answer is A.

 

[oldman]

Besides what is worse, calling someone a f*&^$t on the ice or threatening to kill someone like Avery did?

For those of you playing at home, the correct answer is A.

Really, death threats are pretty serious. Funny though, I work with someone that swings they other way and He calls himself a F#G all the time.

 

[Kin]

Really, death threats are pretty serious. Funny though, I work with someone that swings they other way and He calls himself a F#G all the time.

Continuing to use the word casually isn't doing you a ton of favours.

 

[Kin]

Brian Burke weighs in:

Burke: "It's got to stop."

"If that happened, that is just so embarrassing and the league should not tolerate it," Burke said. "That should be treated on the same level as a racially charged incident. It's the same level of offensiveness and inappropriateness."
...
"I stopped. It's possible to stop and the league should definitely feel the need to use discipline in fines or suspensions."

 

[Madferret]

Old Man

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[oldman]

Really, death threats are pretty serious. Funny though, I work with someone that swings they other way and He calls himself a F#G all the time.

Continuing to use the word casually isn't doing you a ton of favours.

relax dude

 

[Tigger]

Besides what is worse, calling someone a f*&^$t on the ice or threatening to kill someone like Avery did?

For those of you playing at home, the correct answer is A.

I don't think one would get into as much legal trouble with A, generally, fwiw.

 

[Bender]

Besides what is worse, calling someone a f*&^$t on the ice or threatening to kill someone like Avery did?

For those of you playing at home, the correct answer is A.

I don't think one would get into as much legal trouble with A, generally, fwiw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGDaiL7md0s

 

[Tigger]

Is there no cosideration given to context?  Where's the line?  If a slur happens on the ice it's a crime.  If guy gets punched out by a bigger it's not assault?

If Canadian soldier shouts out a slur while defending himself against the Taliban is it a war crime?

Regardless of your hyperbole, there is no context where racial or homophobic slurs are acceptable. Period.

I thought you liked Southpark?

 

[Guilt Trip]

This is a complete joke. Players do this all the time and it doesn't cross the line imo.

from the past....not for the faint of heart...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbu9bjb44NE

 

[moon111]

I can't remember the last time I heard someone say something to another person to hurt them.  I don't even think Avery is out to hurt people with comments, he's just trying to get them upset/off their game.  Some comments have lost their meaning and people say them everyday without even realizing it.

 

[bustaheims]

I thought you liked Southpark?

Touche. Though, at least, with those guys, you know they're making fun of the people who make the slurs rather than being intolerant themselves.

 

[Tigger]

I thought you liked Southpark?

Touche. Though, at least, with those guys, you know they're making fun of the people who make the slurs rather than being intolerant themselves.

Yeah... and that's why it's ok to say #&$%%^ #&$%%^ (*) (*) when you're on tv and !*^.

I think we learned something today.

Edit for 'h', dogamn monkey....

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Speaking of which, has anyone seen that video on youtube with Bryan Trottier (and I forget who else) on the North Stars just giving it to another player from the bench?

If you look for it, beware: the language is extremely offensive.

 

[Kin]

Speaking of which, has anyone seen that video on youtube with Bryan Trottier (and I forget who else) on the North Stars just giving it to another player from the bench?

If you look for it, beware: the language is extremely offensive.

That would be Kevin Stevens with Trottier giving it to Brian Bellows.

 

[Number 5]

Speaking of which, has anyone seen that video on youtube with Bryan Trottier (and I forget who else) on the North Stars just giving it to another player from the bench?

If you look for it, beware: the language is extremely offensive.

That would be Kevin Stevens with Trottier giving it to Brian Bellows.

I remember that!