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Who will be the new coach of the Leafs

Palmateer29 said:
Carolina is out, does that make Brind"Amour available now?

My understanding is that he?s under contract until July 1st.

Can someone explain to me how he?s a significant upgrade over Keefe? Other than ?it?s a new voice?.

If all we seem to care about is playoffs, his teams were twice eliminated by the same teams that eliminated the Leafs, going 0-8 in those games. I?m not saying that?s all on him, or on him at all, but it just doesn?t seem all that? impressive.
 
Joe said:
Palmateer29 said:
Carolina is out, does that make Brind"Amour available now?

My understanding is that he?s under contract until July 1st.

Can someone explain to me how he?s a significant upgrade over Keefe? Other than ?it?s a new voice?.

If all we seem to care about is playoffs, his teams were twice eliminated by the same teams that eliminated the Leafs, going 0-8 in those games. I?m not saying that?s all on him, or on him at all, but it just doesn?t seem all that? impressive.

Yeah, it's all pretty subjective. I'm not sure which available coach provides more than just a 'new voice' to be honest.

It's great to find a coach who's won 1 cup, but that doesn't mean he's ever gonna win another one. The only new coach I'd get excited about would be a perennial cup winner. Don't see any of those in line for an interview for the Leafs coaching job.
 
RedLeaf said:
It's great to find a coach who's won 1 cup, but that doesn't mean he's ever gonna win another one. The only new coach I'd get excited about would be a perennial cup winner. Don't see any of those in line for an interview for the Leafs coaching job.

The only coach who has won the Cup with more than one organization since the end of the Original 6 era is Scotty Bowman. Overall, only 3 coaches have ever done it. So, history tells us that maybe it's not so great to find a coach who has won a Cup.

I'm more apt to find a coach who has gotten close but hasn't won over one that has. To me, that's part of the appeal with Brind'Amour - he's come close, but hasn't gotten there. Is that because of his tactics or is it because of the players he's had to work with? Until he gets time with a very different group, we'll probably never know. Moving to a new organization could be the jolt he needs to refine his approach or could give him the roster he needs for his approach to be fully realized.
 
Joe said:
My understanding is that he?s under contract until July 1st.

Can someone explain to me how he?s a significant upgrade over Keefe? Other than ?it?s a new voice?.

If all we seem to care about is playoffs, his teams were twice eliminated by the same teams that eliminated the Leafs, going 0-8 in those games. I?m not saying that?s all on him, or on him at all, but it just doesn?t seem all that? impressive.

Under his watch, Carolina has been one of the - if not the - strongest defensive and puck possession teams in the league. They've had the personnel to help with that, but his systems absolutely played a part in maximizing that. If he could instill enough of that into the Leafs, with the offensive talent they have, that could be enough to get them over the hump.
 
bustaheims said:
Under his watch, Carolina has been one of the - if not the - strongest defensive and puck possession teams in the league. They've had the personnel to help with that, but his systems absolutely played a part in maximizing that. If he could instill enough of that into the Leafs, with the offensive talent they have, that could be enough to get them over the hump.

That would be fantastic. But personally, I?m not entirely sure he leaves Carolina or that the leafs are willing to wait until his contract expires.
 
Joe said:
bustaheims said:
Under his watch, Carolina has been one of the - if not the - strongest defensive and puck possession teams in the league. They've had the personnel to help with that, but his systems absolutely played a part in maximizing that. If he could instill enough of that into the Leafs, with the offensive talent they have, that could be enough to get them over the hump.

That would be fantastic. But personally, I?m not entirely sure he leaves Carolina or that the leafs are willing to wait until his contract expires.

I'm not either. Just giving my perspective on why he could be an upgrade.
 
bustaheims said:
Joe said:
bustaheims said:
Under his watch, Carolina has been one of the - if not the - strongest defensive and puck possession teams in the league. They've had the personnel to help with that, but his systems absolutely played a part in maximizing that. If he could instill enough of that into the Leafs, with the offensive talent they have, that could be enough to get them over the hump.

That would be fantastic. But personally, I?m not entirely sure he leaves Carolina or that the leafs are willing to wait until his contract expires.

I'm not either. Just giving my perspective on why he could be an upgrade.

I appreciate that. Sorry didn?t mean to sound dismissive, that wasn?t my intent.
 
The coach just needs to be able to implement the vision of the GM/Front Office, manage the roster personalities, motivate performance/development. Previous history can be telling about what they're good at doing, but every team needs slightly different things. That's kind of why coaches expire after 3 years because of roster or managerial turnover. As long as they're not actively bad at something, most coaches have a shot at winning a Cup if they mesh well with the roster.
 
Joe said:
herman said:
As long as they're not actively bad at something, most coaches have a shot at winning a Cup if they mesh well with the roster.

And a goalie that goes into beast mode.

Yeah. The coach sets a structure and hopefully that meshes with the goalie's strengths and weaknesses, so there's an opportunity to go beast mode.
 
Dreger, LeBrun, Johnston, and Friedman are all placing Berube as the front-runner. Dreger is expecting the Leafs will announce the hiring on Tuesday, barring any weird changes.
https://twitter.com/FirstUp1050/status/1791512437897711780
https://twitter.com/TLNdc/status/1791183346627678463

I've also seen a couple of rumours from the Calgary and Toronto sides that Marc Savard would be joining him on the bench. He was the PP coach for the Blues in 2019-2020 before a head coaching stint in Windsor and then shifting to Calgary's bench last season.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4882786/2023/10/08/calgary-flames-marc-savard-coach/
Savard?s philosophy is to trust his higher-skilled, offensive-minded players to be creative and free while in attack. He wants players consistently moving in order to find open spaces and constantly anticipating where their teammates will be. On breakouts, speed is the name of the game, whether that?s in transition as they rush the blue line or race to the corners off a quick, short dump-in.

Savard also wants his players ready to attack off faceoffs, too. Instead of passing the puck to a defenceman so he can blast a bomb from the point, it?s about working pucks to high-danger areas with quick passes. In Savard?s offence, two seconds is an eternity.

?I don?t like guys holding onto the puck long,? Savard said.

And if the opposing team has the puck, Savard?s players will work to regain possession and quickly turn them into offensive chances.

?It starts on defence, right? You?ve got to make teams turn the puck over,? Spitfires forward Oliver Peer said. ?And then once we got it, we were gone.?
 
herman said:
I've also seen a couple of rumours from the Calgary and Toronto sides that Marc Savard would be joining him on the bench. He was the PP coach for the Blues in 2019-2020 before a head coaching stint in Windsor and then shifting to Calgary's bench last season.
Good PP with the Blues, terrible with Calgary. Clear as mud.
Zee said:
OK you guys have convinced me, let's just re-hire Keefe.
Hahaha, good one.
 
Arn said:
So if it is Berube, can we get O?Reilly back in the Marner/Sarros trade?

In hindsight (or without it really), not being able to get ROR extended hurt the team very badly. Especially with how well he played for the Preds this season.
 
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1791551812115300603

Nothing really new here. Every insider is basically saying/hinting Berube and the Leafs are close, but Friedman's upping the credibility by putting it in writing.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Arn said:
So if it is Berube, can we get O?Reilly back in the Marner/Sarros trade?

In hindsight (or without it really), not being able to get ROR extended hurt the team very badly. Especially with how well he played for the Preds this season.

His style suggests he might break down quickly, so there?s a risk to it. But he?d have been ideal.

Still might?



Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington said:
Arn said:
So if it is Berube, can we get O?Reilly back in the Marner/Sarros trade?

No, because we're getting Roman Josi thrown in instead.

Marner, Liljegren for O?Reilly, Saros and Josi 👍🏼
 
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