herman said:
Andersen was a maybe, but I mean they sent Sparks back down so...
2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion
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Andersen was a maybe, but I mean they sent Sparks back down so...
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Andersen good to be the backup, not necessarily the starter - so, herman could still be technically correct.
bustaheims said:
It's certainly possible but those types of situations never made a lick of sense to me.
herman
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https://theathletic.com/280803/2018/03/20/mirtle-how-auston-matthews-injuries-will-cost-him-most-of-his-bonuses-and-help-the-leafs-cap-situation/
As previously discussed, losing Matthews for so many games this season has a potential (positive) impact on our Cap situation next season (i.e. Bonus overage).
Apparently, Matthews' Schedule B bonus is for
If Mirtle's source is correct, this does not include Goals per Game as previously believed per Chris Johnston/SportsNet.
As previously discussed, losing Matthews for so many games this season has a potential (positive) impact on our Cap situation next season (i.e. Bonus overage).
Apparently, Matthews' Schedule B bonus is for
If Mirtle's source is correct, this does not include Goals per Game as previously believed per Chris Johnston/SportsNet.
Coco-puffs
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herman said:
I read the CBA section about a week ago and it does not list Goals Per Game. Johnston was incorrect.
At the end of the day, the main thing the Leafs should avoid is going in to LTIR next year and keeping enough cap space to absorb the bonuses next year. What that might mean is giving up a draft pick for someone to pay Horton's deal.
herman
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Coco-puffs said:
Pipe up, man! Alternatively, I could've just read the CBA myself, but I elected to take this Pok?mon quiz instead.
Coco-puffs
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herman said:
LOL. I piped up on one of Mirtle's previous articles where someone asked him about the bonus overages in the comments. I quoted the section in the CBA. Gonna DM him on Twitter and ask him WTF where's the credit. Sorry I did not pipe up here. I am ashamed of my lack of commitment. Need to work on my real gud pro
bustaheims
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Coco-puffs said:
Thankfully, the real dollars on Horton's deal drops off for the last two years (it'll be $8.1M total compared to $6M for this season), so, a team that's not concerned about cap space for a couple years and wants to add a pick or two might actually be willing to make that move.
bustaheims said:
The whole not being insured thing probably somewhat cancels out whatever extra value he has with his salary dropping a bit.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Maybe. It will probably limit the market a little more, but, for the teams that might be interested, I'm not sure if it impacts the value they'd see in picking him up.
Coco-puffs
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CarltonTheBear said:
Oh for sure. That's real dollars the team will have to spend in order to obtain the assets the Leafs are willing to give up- not just 20% of it (most deals are insured for 80% of the salary).
Ultimately, I think 8.1M of real dollars is ALOT, and thus the assets we'd have to give up would potentially really hurt our asset pool. Like multiple high-round picks (1st/2nd).
My strategy MIGHT be to hold on to Horton and keep those assets and wait and see what happens next year running with approx. 4-5M in Cap Space including Horton's contract (enough to cover Rookie Bonuses for Matthews, Marner, Borgman/Rosen so they don't carry over into 2019-2020). Amazingly, we could still fit Tavares in and stay below that.
If the team looks like its a very serious contender (ie, Top 3 team in the league) and it doesn't look like Gardiner can be extended beyond next year then you shoot your shot:
1) Impact Deadline pickup
2) Offload Horton to balance the cap-sheet (ie stay 4-5M below Cap)
At that point, the acquiring team only has less than $5M left in actual salary to pay Horton so the asset parlay would be substantially lower. Those assets you've saved by waiting to offload Horton can be used to get your Impact Deadline pickup.
If the team doesn't look like it is in the very serious contender conversation, Horton's contract doesn't hurt you in 2019-2020 as the Leafs will certainly be a max-cap team then and he'll be on LTIR.
Heck, if you can stay enough under the cap throughout the year next year (like 8-Million) you could still get a impact player at the deadline (only 25-30% of Cap Hit will accumulate) and still keep enough room to cover rookie bonuses so they don't carry into 2019-2020.
Frank E
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bustaheims said:
I honestly can't think that his contract is anything but a big liability to anyone at this point, and the Leafs would have to make the picks/prospects inclusion in the deal that it really wouldn't be worth it. This is a pill the Leafs are going to have to swallow.
bustaheims
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bustaheims said:
Update:
Washington (1st in Metro): 17
Pittsburgh (2nd in Metro): 15
Philly (3rd in Metro): 11
Columbus (1st Wildcard): 11
Florida: 11
New Jersey (2nd Wildcard): 10
Carolina: 1
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/976522291306692608
Matthews skating with on an actual line now, a good indication that he'll be ready to return tomorrow. Ditto for Zaitsev.
Matthews skating with on an actual line now, a good indication that he'll be ready to return tomorrow. Ditto for Zaitsev.
You are cold, man.
https://www.tsn.ca/talent/gm-meetings-notebook-no-push-to-change-hart-trophy-definition-1.1033995
