2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[CarltonTheBear]

Maybe the injury allows us to get him "cheap"?

Maybe a bit, but if his trade value dips to a certain point it would probably just make more sense for Anaheim to move him next season instead.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

What "experienced backup" is going to help this team? If both Samsonov and Murray are cooked the Leafs are screwed anyway so why not hope for some rookie luck in net? There's no goalie available that will make a difference. Habs got rookie run with Roy, Canes with Cam Ward, Blues with Binnington, it can happen from time to time

Yeah, I have zero interest in acquiring another goalie right now.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Anyone think Woll is backup next year? He doesn't have a huge resume but 7 total NHL games now and he's 5-2 with a .922%  Certainly looks more promising than Sparks early returns. It's a long way off but we may have finally developed a goalie for ourselves

I have a feeling that last night was Woll's biggest game of his career.

I think Dubas showcased him, and he's gone for an experienced backup today.

Dubas won't survive if goaltending is what downs the Leafs these playoffs.

I don't think he gets moved. I've watched almost all of his games this year. This guy has transformed his game and I think he's the real deal. Watching him live is so impressive. He's at a different level then Kallgren and Petruzzelli who I think is the #4 now.

 

[bustaheims]

What "experienced backup" is going to help this team? If both Samsonov and Murray are cooked the Leafs are screwed anyway so why not hope for some rookie luck in net? There's no goalie available that will make a difference. Habs got rookie run with Roy, Canes with Cam Ward, Blues with Binnington, it can happen from time to time

Yeah, I have zero interest in acquiring another goalie right now.

An experienced 3rd goalie wouldn't be the worst thing, but they'd have to come pretty cheap. Definitely not a priority by any means.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I also still like Conor Garland at 50% retained if the Canucks would rather ditch him that way as opposed to buying him out.

 

[bustaheims]

Greenway could be an interesting bet, if the price is reasonable.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I also still like Conor Garland at 50% retained if the Canucks would rather ditch him that way as opposed to buying him out.

Yup..always liked his game and I think he would slide into that 2LW spot just fine.

 

[Bender]

Anyone think Woll is backup next year? He doesn't have a huge resume but 7 total NHL games now and he's 5-2 with a .922%  Certainly looks more promising than Sparks early returns. It's a long way off but we may have finally developed a goalie for ourselves

I have a feeling that last night was Woll's biggest game of his career.

I think Dubas showcased him, and he's gone for an experienced backup today.

Dubas won't survive if goaltending is what downs the Leafs these playoffs.

Dubas won't survive if anything downs the Leafs in the first round.

 

[Bill33]

Anyone think Woll is backup next year? He doesn't have a huge resume but 7 total NHL games now and he's 5-2 with a .922%  Certainly looks more promising than Sparks early returns. It's a long way off but we may have finally developed a goalie for ourselves

I have a feeling that last night was Woll's biggest game of his career.

I think Dubas showcased him, and he's gone for an experienced backup today.

Dubas won't survive if goaltending is what downs the Leafs these playoffs.

The leafs finally have a promising goaltender prospect, and you'd move him for backup rental?

Can't see any logic there. Hard pass.

 

[Zee]

What "experienced backup" is going to help this team? If both Samsonov and Murray are cooked the Leafs are screwed anyway so why not hope for some rookie luck in net? There's no goalie available that will make a difference. Habs got rookie run with Roy, Canes with Cam Ward, Blues with Binnington, it can happen from time to time

Yeah, I have zero interest in acquiring another goalie right now.

An experienced 3rd goalie wouldn't be the worst thing, but they'd have to come pretty cheap. Definitely not a priority by any means.

I'm not 100% against a depth goalie but not at the cost of shipping Woll out. We don't know what we have there yet and he may be the goalie of the future

 

[Bill33]

I guess there's probably a few options, but none of them great unless they move an active player, which can always backfire. I don't see the logic in moving Kerfoot at this stage in the season.

Ideally, I guess they get a moneypuck option to play top six LW which gives them the ability to put O'reilly permanently at 3C.

Truth be told, I think the D is still not looking great, but they've pretty much made their bed there.

 

[Zee]

Does Dubas have 1 move left?  Already 6 players in, lots of turnover, how much is too much? 

 

[bustaheims]

I'm not 100% against a depth goalie but not at the cost of shipping Woll out. We don't know what we have there yet and he may be the goalie of the future

Agreed. Doesn't make sense to move out Woll just to bring in a short-term insurance piece. Right now, he should only be on the table for a clear, longer-term upgrade.

 

[herman]

Are we eyeballing Florida's roster? Hey, Bill, want to help screw over Tampa?

 

[Bill33]

Are we eyeballing Florida's roster? Hey, Bill, want to help screw over Tampa?

Yes

 

[cw]

I'm not 100% against a depth goalie but not at the cost of shipping Woll out. We don't know what we have there yet and he may be the goalie of the future

Agreed. Doesn't make sense to move out Woll just to bring in a short-term insurance piece. Right now, he should only be on the table for a clear, longer-term upgrade.

If a team loses their starter, is the backup going to come in and win them a Cup?
I saw Sawchuk help Bower. You don't see it very often. Moog & Fuhr?
A team that loses their starter is usually done.

Murray showed he could get hot last fall if he's healthy.
Woll might get hot - he's been almost flawless in the AHL and NHL this season.
What backup is available to do better than that at a reasonable cost?

Get me a credible left winger who can help and I'll be quite happy.

 

[azzurri63]

Are we eyeballing Florida's roster? Hey, Bill, want to help screw over Tampa?

I don't think Florida will be selling anyone. They're right their in the mix.

 

[bustaheims]

If a team loses their starter, is the backup going to come in and win them a Cup?
I saw Sawchuk help Bower. You don't see it very often. Moog & Fuhr?
A team that loses their starter is usually done.

Teams can survive with short-term losses if they have a reasonable #2 (See Colorado last year), but, if they lose their starter long-term, it's a huge problem, agreed.

The thing with the Leafs is that they have 2 guys who can carry the load, assuming they're healthy. Getting some injury insurance could be worth it, but not at a significant cost.

Woll could definitely be that guy, but it might be better for his development to anchor the Marlies on a long playoff run (they're currently leading their division and tied for the 2nd best points percentage in the league, so, it's a real possibility).

It's not something I'd spend a lot of assets on - basically, you're looking for a backup to the backup rather than a guy who you actually expect to play meaningful minutes - but it's worth kicking the tires. Someone like Lankinen out of Nashville could be a reasonable and affordable target.

 

[azzurri63]

This trade centre is nothing but a waste of time most years. This year especially. Anything to take up 6-8 hours of air time.

 

[Frank E]

Anyone think Woll is backup next year? He doesn't have a huge resume but 7 total NHL games now and he's 5-2 with a .922%  Certainly looks more promising than Sparks early returns. It's a long way off but we may have finally developed a goalie for ourselves

I have a feeling that last night was Woll's biggest game of his career.

I think Dubas showcased him, and he's gone for an experienced backup today.

Dubas won't survive if goaltending is what downs the Leafs these playoffs.

The leafs finally have a promising goaltender prospect, and you'd move him for backup rental?

Can't see any logic there. Hard pass.

I think Dubas is all in on this year.  If Murray can't contribute, you're putting a lot on Woll...also, Woll has a whole bunch of injury history, and might be at peak value at the moment.

I'm just suggesting that MLSE would be out for blood if goaltending is what sinks this run.