Bozak's Future

[Bonsixx]

I think the only question that needs asking is, who is the all-around better second/third-line centre: Grabovski or Bozak?

Right now, I'm not sure the answer is obvious and, although he has been my favourite Leaf over the past two years, it might make more sense to bail on Grabovski('s deal) and keep Bozak around.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I think 2.75-3.5 is fair.

That's where I think he should be also. I think Kypreos is kind off on his assessment, Bozak is not a 5 million dollar player, right now. I don't think he is going to mature all that much more to be honest.

 

[bustaheims]

Bozak will re-sign for no more than $3.5 I predict, just because things are starting to turn around.  And -- people often forget this -- a guy of his stature can make vastly more in endorsements, public appearances, etc. as a Leaf than he would anywhere else.  His effective salary in TO will be much higher than anyplace else.  Call it the Adulation Multiplier.

People always bring this up, but there's really no truth to it. Who was the last Leaf that received endorsements that one could reasonably believe came anywhere near those numbers? And, are they the type of player that wouldn't have received those endorsement playing elsewhere? I honestly can't think of any.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Bozak will re-sign for no more than $3.5 I predict, just because things are starting to turn around.  And -- people often forget this -- a guy of his stature can make vastly more in endorsements, public appearances, etc. as a Leaf than he would anywhere else.  His effective salary in TO will be much higher than anyplace else.  Call it the Adulation Multiplier.

People always bring this up, but there's really no truth to it. Who was the last Leaf that received endorsements that one could reasonably believe came anywhere near those numbers? And, are they the type of player that wouldn't have received those endorsement playing elsewhere? I honestly can't think of any.

Have you not seen Kessel's tuna commercials? He's rolling in tuna money.

 

[bustaheims]

Have you not seen Kessel's tuna commercials? He's rolling in tuna money.

I have not. Man, I gotta get me some of that sweet sweet tuna money.

 

[Omallley]

Is Bozak still best buddies with Kessel?  I wonder if Bozak's future either in Toronto or away from Toronto will have any impact on Kessel's.

It'd probably make the Kessel negotiations a little easier.

Feel free to merge these threads btw...

http://www.tmlfans.ca/community/index.php?topic=1401.0

I think whoever said MacArthur type money is pretty much spot on, unless he has an agent whispering in his ear about the windfall being a UFA will net him.

Thanks WIGWAL, didn't see this thread before re-starting the conversation.

 

[Kessel Run]

If we're still in it at the deadline, I don't see how you can trade him. Hopefully he will sign at $3M for 2-3 years and we can get Kessel re-signed as well. Perhaps Kadri is ready to take over in a couple years and he could be dealt then, but for now I think you have to keep him.

 

[Jalili]

I think there's an incentive for Bozak to stay with the Leafs.

He might get a bit more cash from another team but he's also running a higher risk that it'll be the last big contract he ever receives. Kind of like Stajan.

 

[Highlander]

I don't know but I have this strong gut feeling that Bozak is heading out...

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Have you not seen Kessel's tuna commercials? He's rolling in tuna money.

I have not. Man, I gotta get me some of that sweet sweet tuna money.

I'm in the US so haven't seen them, but didn't Sundin have some Chunky Soup commercials padding his pockets??

 

[bustaheims]

I'm in the US so haven't seen them, but didn't Sundin have some Chunky Soup commercials padding his pockets??

He did, but, Sundin's the type of player that would have received a bunch of endorsements as long as we wasn't playing in a city where hockey was practically irrelevant.

 

[rdowdall]

I'm in the US so haven't seen them, but didn't Sundin have some Chunky Soup commercials padding his pockets??

He did, but, Sundin's the type of player that would have received a bunch of endorsements as long as we wasn't playing in a city where hockey was practically irrelevant.

Also he had the McDonalds commercial with Gretzky.  And then there was that goalie that he exposed the WEAK WEAK glove hand on....

 

[TML fan]

I'm in the US so haven't seen them, but didn't Sundin have some Chunky Soup commercials padding his pockets??

He did, but, Sundin's the type of player that would have received a bunch of endorsements as long as we wasn't playing in a city where hockey was practically irrelevant.

Also he had the McDonalds commercial with Gretzky.  And then there was that goalie that he exposed the WEAK WEAK glove hand on....

Raycroft?

 

[rdowdall]

I'm in the US so haven't seen them, but didn't Sundin have some Chunky Soup commercials padding his pockets??

He did, but, Sundin's the type of player that would have received a bunch of endorsements as long as we wasn't playing in a city where hockey was practically irrelevant.

Also he had the McDonalds commercial with Gretzky.  And then there was that goalie that he exposed the WEAK WEAK glove hand on....

Raycroft?

I don't know.  Have you ever seen Raycroft drive a cab?

 

[TML fan]

I'm in the US so haven't seen them, but didn't Sundin have some Chunky Soup commercials padding his pockets??

He did, but, Sundin's the type of player that would have received a bunch of endorsements as long as we wasn't playing in a city where hockey was practically irrelevant.

Also he had the McDonalds commercial with Gretzky.  And then there was that goalie that he exposed the WEAK WEAK glove hand on....

Raycroft?

I don't know.  Have you ever seen Raycroft drive a cab?

I saw him try to jump in front of one, but it went through his legs...

Those commercials were awesome.

 

[rdowdall]

I'm in the US so haven't seen them, but didn't Sundin have some Chunky Soup commercials padding his pockets??

He did, but, Sundin's the type of player that would have received a bunch of endorsements as long as we wasn't playing in a city where hockey was practically irrelevant.

Also he had the McDonalds commercial with Gretzky.  And then there was that goalie that he exposed the WEAK WEAK glove hand on....

Also the We love mats McDonalds commercial.  And the one where he bodychecks the kid in to the window.  Forgot who that was for.  Anyways, I do think Mats playing in T.O. helped get some of those.  Not sure he would have gotten those if he was in Quebec or Colorado.

 

[rdowdall]

I'm in the US so haven't seen them, but didn't Sundin have some Chunky Soup commercials padding his pockets??

He did, but, Sundin's the type of player that would have received a bunch of endorsements as long as we wasn't playing in a city where hockey was practically irrelevant.

Also he had the McDonalds commercial with Gretzky.  And then there was that goalie that he exposed the WEAK WEAK glove hand on....

Also the We love mats McDonalds commercial.  And the one where he bodychecks the kid in to the window.  Forgot who that was for.  Anyways, I do think Mats playing in T.O. helped get some of those.  Not sure he would have gotten those if he was in Quebec or Colorado.

Oh and of course Pokerstars.net.

 

[bustaheims]

Also the We love mats McDonalds commercial.  And the one where he bodychecks the kid in to the window.  Forgot who that was for.  Anyways, I do think Mats playing in T.O. helped get some of those.  Not sure he would have gotten those if he was in Quebec or Colorado.

That was Nike. And, yeah, he probably wouldn't have gotten all of them, but a good chunk of them, yes. As well as others that weren't available to him here. But, at the same time, Sundin is arguably the best Leaf ever, whereas Bozak - the impetus of this discussion - will largely be forgotten 10 years from now.

 

[Kin]

Also the We love mats McDonalds commercial.  And the one where he bodychecks the kid in to the window.  Forgot who that was for.  Anyways, I do think Mats playing in T.O. helped get some of those.  Not sure he would have gotten those if he was in Quebec or Colorado.

Maybe, but that was Mats Sundin. In the case of someone who's a relatively marginal player like Bozak? I think that just about any sort of higher offer in salary he'd get from another team would be easily a match for the money he makes from any other source.

 

[rdowdall]

Also the We love mats McDonalds commercial.  And the one where he bodychecks the kid in to the window.  Forgot who that was for.  Anyways, I do think Mats playing in T.O. helped get some of those.  Not sure he would have gotten those if he was in Quebec or Colorado.

Maybe, but that was Mats Sundin. In the case of someone who's a relatively marginal player like Bozak? I think that just about any sort of higher offer in salary he'd get from another team would be easily a match for the money he makes from any other source.

True.  But I think a star player becomes a little more marketable in a bigger market.  Corey Perry for example.  Does anyone know if he has a deal or two?  I'm sure he does, but I don't think they would be national.  The last two that I can think of that I saw were Rick Nash and Mike Cammalleri.  I guess I have also seen Tavares, Duchene and Talbot (yeah one of these things is not like the others), but those are the only ones that stick out in recent memory.  So when the salaries are the same for these big name players from different teams, then coming to a market like Toronto may actually have some benefits as far as endorsements go.  In the case of Bozak, no.