Canadiens @ Leafs - May 31st, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590

[dekedastardly]

The kids have no heart. Trade them all. Coaching and management can go too.

 

[azzurri63]

I said long ago if they can't win R1 then anything is possible.  Shanahan and Dubas may not be safe.

May not be safe. Clean house with all management coaching and like I said some of this core. Year after year they make excuses man when is enough is enough?

 

[rdowdall]

Well the good news is that teams like Ottawa and Washington did eventually breakthrough.  I was kind of hoping though that the Leafs were building a dynasty, and not this "You get one shot at it" team.

 

[ZBBM]

Mikheyev and Engvall haven't done a damn thing.  That hasn't helped.

 

[BermudaBudsFan]

It really is an embarrassment.  I would start with terminating Shanahan and move on from there.

not embarrassing for me. Shanny and Dubas are going nowhere. This is on the players

It?s an embarrassment for them ? someone significant won?t be in Toronto next year.

 

[Guilt Trip]

The kids have no heart. Trade them all. Coaching and management can go too.

Ridiculous..

 

[CarltonTheBear]

After he gets paid his $9,608,000 signing bonus on July 1st Marner will have just $24.8mil left on his contract spread over 4 seasons.

You know, if anybody was wondering.

 

[rdowdall]

On that note.  I really think that making the playoffs in Matthews and Marners first season is where this thing went off the rails.  I think that it has lead them to believe that they just will always make the playoffs, and maybe they don't respect it as much as they need to.

 

[Derk]

Another obvious hold there by Chiarot.

 

[TheMightyOdin]

Okay I?m back.

 

[ZBBM]

Yeah, a PP...

 

[Derk]

Finally. Though if that was the first period and it was tied that wouldn't have been called.

 

[Bender]

This team just absolutely wilts under pressure. It?s quite extraordinary.

Gotta change something, just not sure what. This feels like a psychological issue rather than a talent issue.

Psychological is sometimes more powerful than physical. If they don't have the fortitude then who cares how much skill they have?

 

[wnc096]

Finally. Though if that was the first period and it was tied that wouldn't have been called.

Another weak call.  But you take it

 

[lamajama]

Guess I didn?t know what I was talking about but even with the injuries they should have put this series away. If they don?t make some major changes with this core I don?t know what to say. Fukn losers. Thank god I stopped watching early in the series.

But what exactly do you want them to do?  Which one do you want them to trade, and how?

Assuming they lose...the only core piece who should be considered would be Marner, but it would have to be a really good deal. I think maybe you give this group one more year, tweaking around the edges. Replace slow/unproductive players like Thornton and Simmonds with younger, quicker ones. Bring back Spezza, maybe Galchenyuk. Re-sign Hyman only if it is a deal that fits in, we can't mortgage the future to keep him. He's not going to age well and appears to already have lost a step. And hope like heck a couple of younger players (Robertson maybe) are ready to step in and play a regular role.

Thoughtful reply and I agree with so much of what you say but i?ll throw it out there....in trading a superstar (current anger aside) when has the team trading the superstar ever came out ahead? Can?t think of one but people here will likely come up with some examples

Bruins traded Thorton, and then 4 short years later, they won the cup.

IIRC, none of the players acquired were any kind of difference makers?

 

[Bill_Berg]

After he gets paid his $9,608,000 signing bonus on July 1st Marner will have just $24.8mil left on his contract spread over 4 seasons.

You know, if anybody was wondering.

But he's a really good PKer.

 

[Arn]

I think they may have finally turned up. Hopefully 9 minutes is enough.

 

[ZBBM]

The collapse of the PP is maybe the most frustrating thing of all about this team.  It's almost unbelievable that it could be so bad for so long.

 

[Beowulf]

This is likely the last few minutes of Thornton's career, since the Leafs shouldn't re-sign him and I can't imagine any other team wanting him either.

 

[Bender]

Finally. Though if that was the first period and it was tied that wouldn't have been called.

Another weak call.  But you take it

Weak? That was literally textbook interference.