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Carlyle Extended/Randy's Revenge

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freer said:
Highlander said:
The team is being built to go to the next level. We have a core of very good young talent that is under contract for the next 3-4 years, we have young guys coming up like Holland and Leivo (and more to come, Nylander, Johnson etc). We have brought in character with Winnek, Komorav, Booth and Santorelli, all men with something to prove. 
Our front office is set with a new group and a new vision, we are setting the table for Bab___Ks feast.
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Booth is unproven......
I honestly  dont care if he ever plays
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That's a strange viewpoint. What if he's better than the other 4th liners?
 
Bullfrog said:
freer said:
Highlander said:
The team is being built to go to the next level. We have a core of very good young talent that is under contract for the next 3-4 years, we have young guys coming up like Holland and Leivo (and more to come, Nylander, Johnson etc). We have brought in character with Winnek, Komorav, Booth and Santorelli, all men with something to prove. 
Our front office is set with a new group and a new vision, we are setting the table for Bab___Ks feast.
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Booth is unproven......
I honestly  dont care if he ever plays
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That's a strange viewpoint. What if he's better than the other 4th liners?
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Just an opinion, I didn't see much in the pre season from him.
 
Bullfrog said:
freer said:
Booth is unproven......
I honestly  dont care if he ever plays
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That's a strange viewpoint. What if he's better than the other 4th liners?
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Also, he's hardly unproven. He's an NHL veteran. He's been an NHL regular since 06-07 and has over 400 games under his belt.
 
There is nothing better than to have a player like Booth, who has a lot left to prove so will be highly motivated, only if he still has some gas in his tank and can stay healthy.
I am so glad we let Bolland go, definetly a bust with the Panthers.
 
Highlander said:
There is nothing better than to have a player like Booth, who has a lot left to prove so will be highly motivated, only if he still has some gas in his tank and can stay healthy.
I am so glad we let Bolland go, definetly a bust with the Panthers.
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I completely forgot about Bolland... so I just looked him up to see how he's doing... he's played 4 games for the panthers.
 
Imagine if we had retained him at 5 million.  God how scary to have Clarkson, Bolland and the Pylon as anchor cap heavyweights.
 
Much like a bad trip to Mexico, Randy's Revenge is appearing to be more Montezuma than anything else.
 
Tuesday?s blowout was the 167th regular season game Carlyle has coached the Leafs. This was their 88th loss which, compared to the 79 wins, stands out mainly because of how staunchly management has defended his tenure despite this fact.

It?s been a tenure in which the Leafs have exhibited all of the shortcomings of a poorly coached team, too, with poor efforts, poor structure and poor resolve displayed so often.

The organization?s new analytics department, meanwhile, could produce pages and pages of data highlighting that Carlyle-coached teams ? going back to the end of his Anaheim days ? have been some of the most porous defensively in the league. (The Ducks were a 46 per cent possession team in his last 200 games there, third worst in the league.)

This season alone there have been five blowout losses in only 19 games and very little explanation for how or why it continues to happen from the staff.

The Leafs are also fourth last in the NHL in shots against per game and in the bottom five in score-adjusted possession metrics.

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It?s still wrong ? even with new assistant coaches and new management and almost half of a new roster ? and it?s been a huge contributor to the Leafs losing 22 of their last 33 games going back to that collapse last season.

The Leafs have made some small strides this season, but Tuesday was a glaring example that it?s hardly enough to change what this team fundamentally is. They?re not good enough to be good (contend) or bad enough to be bad (Connor McDavid), and after each ugly loss, the debate in Toronto circles around who exactly is to blame for the situation.

It?s a complicated question because there?s never one answer when it comes to dysfunction like this.

New president Brendan Shanahan has a lot of options here. But it?s hard to imagine replacing Carlyle isn?t high on the list whenever a major change is finally made.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/mirtle-randy-carlyle-under-fire-as-leafs-hit-skids-again/article21647019/
 
Possession figures (using Fenwick % at 5 on 5 for these #'s):

Anaheim last 3 full seasons under Carlyle

2008-09: 50% (13th) [last season of both Niedermayer/Pronger]
2009-10: 47% (26th)
2010-11: 46% (30th)

Toronto last 3 full seasons under Wilson

2008-09: 51% (12th)
2009-10: 52% (4th)
2010-11: 48% (23rd)

Toronto first 2 seasons under Carlyle
2012-13 (lockout year): 45% (30th)
2013-14: 43% (30th)

So in Carlyle's last 5 seasons (including 1 lockout shortened seasons) his team's possession #'s have gone 50, 47, 46, 45, 43.
 
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