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David Clarkson

I don't think Clarkson directly was responsible for any of the losses, I can't remember a gaffe that lead directly to an opposition goal, no doubt he has had a zombie like first year but I always said he was a playoff player?.all we need to  do is get into the playoffs.
I'd be the first to say I am very disappointed and suprized by his play, I always liked what he brought to the Devils and always remembered him when I watched them play. I thought he would be a good solid addition but it has not turned out that way.  If we do get into the playoffs I heartily expect to see the old Dave C.  If we don't, lets hope he shows up next year, which I believe he will.
 
mc said:
One thing I admired about Clarkson after scoring that goal, not even a hint of happiness or joy. That tells me this slump he has been in has been weighing heavily on him.
It was a look of disbelief. "I scored?"
 
Highlander said:
I don't think Clarkson directly was responsible for any of the losses, I can't remember a gaffe that lead directly to an opposition goal, no doubt he has had a zombie like first year but I always said he was a playoff player?.all we need to  do is get into the playoffs.
I'd be the first to say I am very disappointed and suprized by his play, I always liked what he brought to the Devils and always remembered him when I watched them play. I thought he would be a good solid addition but it has not turned out that way.  If we do get into the playoffs I heartily expect to see the old Dave C.  If we don't, lets hope he shows up next year, which I believe he will.

With a team of 18 skaters, it's hard to say that his lack of offense directly led to a particular loss. However, there's no doubt that it contributed to the over record of the team.
 
Highlander said:
I don't think Clarkson directly was responsible for any of the losses, I can't remember a gaffe that lead directly to an opposition goal, no doubt he has had a zombie like first year but I always said he was a playoff player?.all we need to  do is get into the playoffs.
I'd be the first to say I am very disappointed and suprized by his play, I always liked what he brought to the Devils and always remembered him when I watched them play. I thought he would be a good solid addition but it has not turned out that way.  If we do get into the playoffs I heartily expect to see the old Dave C.  If we don't, lets hope he shows up next year, which I believe he will.

Clarkson has taken some boneheaded penalties that resulted in PP goals against. Other than that he has been flawless, but his flawlessness is the result of actually not doing anything positive for the team other than wasting 4 million in cap space.




 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/mirtle-david-clarkson-and-his-buyout-proof-contract/article17783243/?cmpid=rss1&click=dlvr.it

Because of the way the deal is structured ? with more than 75 per cent of the money in irrevocable signing bonuses ? Clarkson has the rare indestructible contract, one that guarantees him the vast majority of his money no matter what.

The only part of the deal the Leafs can really buy out is one-third of the $8-million in remaining base salary, meaning Clarkson would receive all but $2.7-million (or 8 per cent) of the contract, and Toronto would have an enormous amount of dead money on its cap.

The gift that keeps on giving.
 
alhough C has taken penalities, same as Kessel, JVR and the rest, he has actually been responsible for many goals for by getting into the crease and creating a block. Yes he is expensive, yes he has not lived up to our hopes, but in three years the cap may be up in the neighbourhood of 90M and by that time hopefully he is playing Clarkson hockey a la Devil style.
If not in 3 years we buy him out and put Biggs in his place for 500K?.LOL
 
bustaheims said:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/mirtle-david-clarkson-and-his-buyout-proof-contract/article17783243/?cmpid=rss1&click=dlvr.it

Because of the way the deal is structured ? with more than 75 per cent of the money in irrevocable signing bonuses ? Clarkson has the rare indestructible contract, one that guarantees him the vast majority of his money no matter what.

The only part of the deal the Leafs can really buy out is one-third of the $8-million in remaining base salary, meaning Clarkson would receive all but $2.7-million (or 8 per cent) of the contract, and Toronto would have an enormous amount of dead money on its cap.

The gift that keeps on giving.

That's diabolical!
 
Clarkson's contract is dead cap space anyway. I say buy him out and just fill his spot with cheap pluggers. They will be just as useful.
 
Guru Tugginmypuddah said:
bustaheims said:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/mirtle-david-clarkson-and-his-buyout-proof-contract/article17783243/?cmpid=rss1&click=dlvr.it

Because of the way the deal is structured ? with more than 75 per cent of the money in irrevocable signing bonuses ? Clarkson has the rare indestructible contract, one that guarantees him the vast majority of his money no matter what.

The only part of the deal the Leafs can really buy out is one-third of the $8-million in remaining base salary, meaning Clarkson would receive all but $2.7-million (or 8 per cent) of the contract, and Toronto would have an enormous amount of dead money on its cap.

The gift that keeps on giving.

That's diabolical!

Not unheard of for creative clauses in contracts.  I remember Bobby Holik had a clause that he would get paid in the event of a lock out when he signed with New York.  I don't know if that one was exercised.
 
bustaheims said:
Bullfrog said:
$90M in three years?

If the Canadian dollar rebounds massively and surpasses the US dollar in value, then, maybe. Otherwise, not a chance.

Seeing as a lot of economists are calling for the dollar to drop to 85 cents...and the Harper government is ok with that because it means more money for Alberta's oil, not likely.

It really strikes me as bad policy to design your cap around hopeful cap increases though.  For can't miss players, sure, but not for guys who project as good 3rd liners.
 
L K said:
It really strikes me as bad policy to design your cap around hopeful cap increases though.  For can't miss players, sure, but not for guys who project as good 3rd liners.

Oh, it absolutely is. I mean, the Leafs probably have guys in the system that can be good third liners and cost less than $1M against the cap. I mean, even if they provide like 75% of a $3M 3rd liner, that's still worth it, because that extra $2M in cap space can more than make up for that difference by improving in other areas. I've been thinking about it, and, my preference for the Leafs this summer is to not sign any UFAs that want more than $2M per season (except, maybe, for Vanek) and have them fill the holes in the roster with guys in the system or veterans on cheap deals. That might not mean a huge improvement in results next season, but, in the longer-term, not having 3rd and 4th line/3rd pairing guys signed to big money, multi-season deals is very much in the team's best interest.
 
But wouldn't those '3rd liners' making less than a million eventually want to be paid like 3rd liners and come in around the 2 or 3 million a year range?
 
He's suggesting using guys on the Marlies to fill those spots. Bodies, D'Amigo, Ashton, etc. should easily match the production of Clarkson. Not Raymond though.
 
Capgeek has updated their buyout calculator to take that information into account. This is what they have a Clarkson buyout looking like if it happened this summer:

David Clarkson buyout from CapGeek.com

2014-15: $4,694,444
2015-16: $4,694,444
2016-17: $3,694,444
2017-18: $3,694,444
2018-19: $4,694,444
2019-20: $4,694,444
2020-21: $444,444
2021-22: $444,444
2022-23: $444,444
2023-24: $444,444
2024-25: $444,444
2025-26: $444,444

Dang.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Capgeek has updated their buyout calculator to take that information into account. This is what they have a Clarkson buyout looking like if it happened this summer:

David Clarkson buyout from CapGeek.com

2014-15: $4,694,444
2015-16: $4,694,444
2016-17: $3,694,444
2017-18: $3,694,444
2018-19: $4,694,444
2019-20: $4,694,444
2020-21: $444,444
2021-22: $444,444
2022-23: $444,444
2023-24: $444,444
2024-25: $444,444
2025-26: $444,444

Dang.

Welp.  :-\

CarltonTheBear said:
Guru Tugginmypuddah said:
That's diabolical!

Just a good ol' Toronto boy taking a home-down discount.

I hope that article kills any more mention of how he left money on the table elsewhere.  So what?  If Edmonton offered him $99 million and he signed this contract he's still not giving the Leafs a good deal.
 

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