Game 12 - Leafs @ Devils - Wednesday Nov 2nd, 2011 - 19:30 EST - 5-3 Win

[ZBBM]

Lupul

May I ask, is your enthusiasm for Lupul based on his consummate skill as a goalscorer, or does the fact that he looks like a dropdead darkly handsome leading man from a classic Holywood 40s film have anything to do with it?  Just an idle question.  :-X

I'm old enough to be his mother..... I adore him as a player, I love the fact that he twitters (and he's got some on-going banter going with Bryan Berard in regards to the latter's Battle of the Blades performances). He does have gorgeous eyes, but I'm really too old to do any puck-bunnying anymore. I just love him as a player really.

Well done.

EDIT: I think Bender was talking to me.

 

[TheMightyOdin]

I have to question what you're asking for here, the Leafs have been brutal on the pk tonight, you honestly believe the discussion is outside of tonights situation?

I'll go along with what you want if you admit I'm not allowed to criticize the current state of the team.

Yes, I honestly believe that, why else would I say it?

You can critcize them all you want but there is a thread called "The Special Teams" to get into in depth discussions about the special teams.

I'm not going to discuss this and further in this thread either, as its also off topic.

Ok dude, I'll abide by your arbitrary and fairly unusual request however I think you're being kind of omnipotent in application, fwiw.

Sorry Tigger but I was glad when Deebo did that. The conversation was wandering away from the game being played. I had a thought of asking before Deebo did but felt it wasn't my place to do so.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

More evidence that our PP is garbage? They put Kovalchuk and Parise out to kill it off...

Kovalchuk and Parise regularly kill penalties for the Devils.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Was offside but he was STILL behind the 'D'. Grrrrrrrrr.

And he had to go offside to get behind the D to get a chance on that one.  If he doesn't go offside, the D are right there and he'd be standing still.

No. He was skating at speed and the defence wasn't paying attention. It was a 1/2 step and he still would've been in alone.

Yeah he was skating at speed and went offside.  To not go offside, he would have had to slow down or stop.  As I am saying, doing that would have allowed the D to have been right there, and he would have been standing still.  There was not a massive gap.

 

[LittleHockeyFan]

I have to question what you're asking for here, the Leafs have been brutal on the pk tonight, you honestly believe the discussion is outside of tonights situation?

I'll go along with what you want if you admit I'm not allowed to criticize the current state of the team.

Yes, I honestly believe that, why else would I say it?

You can critcize them all you want but there is a thread called "The Special Teams" to get into in depth discussions about the special teams.

I'm not going to discuss this and further in this thread either, as its also off topic.

Ok dude, I'll abide by your arbitrary and fairly unusual request however I think you're being kind of omnipotent in application, fwiw.

at the risk of making this even more longwinded, I think the point was that there was a thread devoted to Special Teams (of which the PK would be considered one, although it's arguable just how *special* it is right now) and that those of us who want to discuss this particular game, in its particular Game Day thread, would probably rather see the continuance of further discussion of the abilities (or apparent lack thereof) of the Leafs' penalty killing go to the thread that is devoted to speaking of that.

 

[TML fan]

More evidence that our PP is garbage? They put Kovalchuk and Parise out to kill it off...

Kovalchuk and Parise regularly kill penalties for the Devils.

Well then...Our pp still sucks. Just for different reasons. 

 

[Deebo]

More evidence that our PP is garbage? They put Kovalchuk and Parise out to kill it off...

Kovalchuk and Parise regularly kill penalties for the Devils.

Probably even moreso when they are down a couple goals.

 

[ZBBM]

Perfect road 3rd by the Leafs.  Disrupt the flow with icings, keep things nice and quiet.  And Gus made some pretty good stops when there was that flurry a few minutes back.

 

[Tigger]

I have to question what you're asking for here, the Leafs have been brutal on the pk tonight, you honestly believe the discussion is outside of tonights situation?

I'll go along with what you want if you admit I'm not allowed to criticize the current state of the team.

Yes, I honestly believe that, why else would I say it?

You can critcize them all you want but there is a thread called "The Special Teams" to get into in depth discussions about the special teams.

I'm not going to discuss this and further in this thread either, as its also off topic.

Ok dude, I'll abide by your arbitrary and fairly unusual request however I think you're being kind of omnipotent in application, fwiw.

at the risk of making this even more longwinded, I think the point was that there was a thread devoted to Special Teams (of which the PK would be considered one, although it's arguable just how *special* it is right now) and that those of us who want to discuss this particular game, in its particular Game Day thread, would probably rather see the continuance of further discussion of the abilities (or apparent lack thereof) of the Leafs' penalty killing go to the thread that is devoted to speaking of that.

Whatever, it doesn't matter to me now, I'll take C l e m and go home, you can have your playground.

 

[Propellertop]

Was offside but he was STILL behind the 'D'. Grrrrrrrrr.

And he had to go offside to get behind the D to get a chance on that one.  If he doesn't go offside, the D are right there and he'd be standing still.

No. He was skating at speed and the defence wasn't paying attention. It was a 1/2 step and he still would've been in alone.

Yeah he was skating at speed and went offside.  To not go offside, he would have had to slow down or stop.  As I am saying, doing that would have allowed the D to have been right there, and he would have been standing still.  There was not a massive gap.

Seriously? You watched Jagr's multiple breakaways right? Same thing except Sykora was on the boards and not coming through the centre. The D wasn't in a position to cut off the pass or defend against him entering the zone. It's that simple. Ya. He went off side on that particular play but it doesn't excuse our defensive positioning.

 

[4th Liner]

Empty netter? Anyone? We never seem to get one....

 

[Kessel Run]

Tough luck for Loops there.

 

[TheMightyOdin]

Bozak is a nose picker.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Seriously? You watched Jagr's multiple breakaways right? Same thing except Sykora was on the boards and not coming through the centre. The D wasn't in a position to cut off the pass or defend against him entering the zone. It's that simple. Ya. He went off side on that particular play but it doesn't excuse our defensive positioning.

Jagr's was a completely different play, at a completely different area of the ice.  I'm not going to even argue with you if you can't see the difference in those two plays, the most glaring of which being that Jagr was sent in on a breakaway from close to centre ice so the chance of going off-side was zero.

 

[barney_rebel]

we rule man

 

[TheMightyOdin]

Always good when the loophole is on your side.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

It's good to get a win scoring 5 goals with a pretty quiet night from both Kessel and Phaneuf.

 

[Propellertop]

Seriously? You watched Jagr's multiple breakaways right? Same thing except Sykora was on the boards and not coming through the centre. The D wasn't in a position to cut off the pass or defend against him entering the zone. It's that simple. Ya. He went off side on that particular play but it doesn't excuse our defensive positioning.

Jagr's was a completely different play, at a completely different area of the ice.  I'm not going to even argue with you if you can't see the difference in those two plays, the most glaring of which being that Jagr was sent in on a breakaway from close to centre ice so the chance of going off-side was zero.

Ok. Stop arguing with me for the exact same reason. If you can't see how the plays were alike, there's no point discussing it.

 

[ZBBM]

I'd give Scrivens the start tomorrow nite if Reimer is not ready.

BTW, I am on the road and may need to close out MotM voting first thing tomorrow if I am to get it down before tomorrow's game, which I will have to miss.  So vote tonite if you want to vote.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Seriously? You watched Jagr's multiple breakaways right? Same thing except Sykora was on the boards and not coming through the centre. The D wasn't in a position to cut off the pass or defend against him entering the zone. It's that simple. Ya. He went off side on that particular play but it doesn't excuse our defensive positioning.

Jagr's was a completely different play, at a completely different area of the ice.  I'm not going to even argue with you if you can't see the difference in those two plays, the most glaring of which being that Jagr was sent in on a breakaway from close to centre ice so the chance of going off-side was zero.

Ok. Stop arguing with me for the exact same reason. If you can't see how the plays were alike, there's no point discussing it.

Thank you, I'm glad you see it my way.