Game 12 - Leafs @ Devils - Wednesday Nov 2nd, 2011 - 19:30 EST - 5-3 Win

[Derk]

Nice way to end a Wednesday.

Also nice for the Leafs to have all these points banked away early for when things get tougher in the new year!

 

[leafplasma]

I have to question what you're asking for here, the Leafs have been brutal on the pk tonight, you honestly believe the discussion is outside of tonights situation?

I'll go along with what you want if you admit I'm not allowed to criticize the current state of the team.

Yes, I honestly believe that, why else would I say it?

You can critcize them all you want but there is a thread called "The Special Teams" to get into in depth discussions about the special teams.

I'm not going to discuss this and further in this thread either, as its also off topic.

Ok dude, I'll abide by your arbitrary and fairly unusual request however I think you're being kind of omnipotent in application, fwiw.

at the risk of making this even more longwinded, I think the point was that there was a thread devoted to Special Teams (of which the PK would be considered one, although it's arguable just how *special* it is right now) and that those of us who want to discuss this particular game, in its particular Game Day thread, would probably rather see the continuance of further discussion of the abilities (or apparent lack thereof) of the Leafs' penalty killing go to the thread that is devoted to speaking of that.

Whatever, it doesn't matter to me now, I'll take C l e m and go home, you can have your playground.

Chill man, the request was made politely.  I was involved in the discussion as well and was not offended.  Be happy that this forum has moderation, without such, things go  south very quickly.

 

[Propellertop]

Seriously? You watched Jagr's multiple breakaways right? Same thing except Sykora was on the boards and not coming through the centre. The D wasn't in a position to cut off the pass or defend against him entering the zone. It's that simple. Ya. He went off side on that particular play but it doesn't excuse our defensive positioning.

Jagr's was a completely different play, at a completely different area of the ice.  I'm not going to even argue with you if you can't see the difference in those two plays, the most glaring of which being that Jagr was sent in on a breakaway from close to centre ice so the chance of going off-side was zero.

Ok. Stop arguing with me for the exact same reason. If you can't see how the plays were alike, there's no point discussing it.

Thank you, I'm glad you see it my way.

Absolutely. If only you would have stopped before you started. Can we move on now?

 

[barney_rebel]

^^ hey two arguments in a row

 

[leafplasma]

I'd give Scrivens the start tomorrow nite if Reimer is not ready.

Without a doubt, Gus has played a lot of hockey since Reims went down.  I feel very confident with Scrivens getting the start, I definitely put him in ahead of a tired Gus.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Seriously? You watched Jagr's multiple breakaways right? Same thing except Sykora was on the boards and not coming through the centre. The D wasn't in a position to cut off the pass or defend against him entering the zone. It's that simple. Ya. He went off side on that particular play but it doesn't excuse our defensive positioning.

Jagr's was a completely different play, at a completely different area of the ice.  I'm not going to even argue with you if you can't see the difference in those two plays, the most glaring of which being that Jagr was sent in on a breakaway from close to centre ice so the chance of going off-side was zero.

Ok. Stop arguing with me for the exact same reason. If you can't see how the plays were alike, there's no point discussing it.

Thank you, I'm glad you see it my way.

Absolutely. If only you would have stopped before you started. Can we move on now?

I think we'd all feel a little better with a little visual evidence of what I mean.  Take note of when I said Jagr was nowhere near offside, and then when I also said, the Leafs D were right there at the blueline and that the Devils player had to go offside or else he would not have had a breakaway.

Now, as the visual evidence shows, Jagr broke away from the D at his own blueline and was home free.

In exhibit B, the Devils player snuck behind Komisarek, who was still quite close to the Leafs blueline.  Had the Devils player stayed onside, he would have had to have been a step or two back, and would not have been able to be in stride (because if he was, he would go offside like he did), and with Komisarek backing up and Liles providing support, the Leafs could have pretty easily nullified the chance from a slowed down or standing still opponent.

I hope this has been as informative as it was fun to use pictures.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Also, just read on twitter the Leafs held the Devils to 5 shots in the third.  Nice!

 

[Deebo]

Also, just read on twitter the Leafs held the Devils to 5 shots in the third.  Nice!

I bet a couple of those was when the Leafs were on the PP.

 

[crazyperfectdevil]

i know this won't last forever..but the stat of the leaf's i like the most right now ..is the fact that they don't have back to back losses

 

[TML fan]

Also, just read on twitter the Leafs held the Devils to 5 shots in the third.  Nice!

I bet a couple of those was when the Leafs were on the PP.

At least two.

 

[Zee]

i know this won't last forever..but the stat of the leaf's i like the most right now ..is the fact that they don't have back to back losses

Way to not dream big. Nutman please turn away and don't read this post.

 

[leafplasma]

Love to see this team fully healthy for a game.  Armstrong in for Crabb and Reims back in goal.

 

[McPwnage]

why is it that Lupul scores a hat trick the game after I trade him and parise for daniel sedin and hiller?  Oh well hopefully I still won that deal

 

[crazyperfectdevil]

i know this won't last forever..but the stat of the leaf's i like the most right now ..is the fact that they don't have back to back losses

Way to not dream big. Nutman please turn away and don't read this post.

hard to look much beyond that when the last few seasons have been plagued with so many prolonged losing skids that they haven't been able to get out of

 

[maplesyrup]

Lupul... First Leaf since Sittler in 1980 to score 3 on the road? 

 

[Bender]

Lupul

May I ask, is your enthusiasm for Lupul based on his consummate skill as a goalscorer, or does the fact that he looks like a dropdead darkly handsome leading man from a classic Holywood 40s film have anything to do with it?  Just an idle question.  :-X

Mancrush?

Merely an objective assessment wherein I compare ascertainable physiognomic features displayed by the subject with a roster of culturally endorsed standards of male attractiveness.  I can rattle off a whole series of similar female attributes, if you like.

Mancrush

 

[Bender]

Lupul

May I ask, is your enthusiasm for Lupul based on his consummate skill as a goalscorer, or does the fact that he looks like a dropdead darkly handsome leading man from a classic Holywood 40s film have anything to do with it?  Just an idle question.  :-X

I'm old enough to be his mother..... I adore him as a player, I love the fact that he twitters (and he's got some on-going banter going with Bryan Berard in regards to the latter's Battle of the Blades performances). He does have gorgeous eyes, but I'm really too old to do any puck-bunnying anymore. I just love him as a player really.

Well done.

EDIT: I think Bender was talking to me.

Haha, yeah a crush on a man by a woman is just called, simply, a crush!  ;D

 

[anton girdeaux]

Good win, onto CLB; only gripe is the special teams...

 

[Bender]

i know this won't last forever..but the stat of the leaf's i like the most right now ..is the fact that they don't have back to back losses

Way to not dream big. Nutman please turn away and don't read this post.

LOL! Where is Nutman, anyway? I don't want to dig up that old "plan the parade" joke but, I'm starting be concerned that that's actually what he's doing.

 

[ZBBM]

Lupul

May I ask, is your enthusiasm for Lupul based on his consummate skill as a goalscorer, or does the fact that he looks like a dropdead darkly handsome leading man from a classic Holywood 40s film have anything to do with it?  Just an idle question.  :-X

Mancrush?

Merely an objective assessment wherein I compare ascertainable physiognomic features displayed by the subject with a roster of culturally endorsed standards of male attractiveness.  I can rattle off a whole series of similar female attributes, if you like.

Mancrush