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Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590

i'm frustrated with kadri ..at the same time ..i'm more so with the officiating ...does that kadri hit happen if the officials call the game?  i don't think so..that knee on knee could have ended kadri's season ..but there won't be any talk about that over the next few days ...the fact that it wasn't a penalty will be treated as if it never happened ...they will however endlessly go on about what a bag egg kadri is ...the hit will only be shown out of context of the game at large ...

i don't know if the leafs would have won this game with better officiating ..they easily could have lost either way ..but it's really hard to play your game when the other team is allowed to take liberties ..it's easier to defend when you're allowed to hook and trip ..maybe someone more objective than me would say that both sides were as bad as eachother ...but i don't know ..
 
cabber24 said:
Krug seriously needs to tighten that chin strap, history of concussions.
I don't like seeing anyone get hurt but it wouldn't bother me if he was out for the series. What a hit by Muzz tho!
 
gunnar36 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.
 
azzurri63 said:
gunnar36 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.

Technically there?s no such thing as a good crosscheck to the head.

https://twitter.com/peteblackburn/status/1117254520730521601
 
azzurri63 said:
gunnar36 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.

Even if he missed, the intent was there and with Kadri's history...

Edit after seeing the video above...he didn't miss. That's gonna be at least 2 games IMO.
 
crazyperfectdevil said:
i'm frustrated with kadri ..at the same time ..i'm more so with the officiating ...does that kadri hit happen if the officials call the game?  i don't think so..that knee on knee could have ended kadri's season ..but there won't be any talk about that over the next few days ...the fact that it wasn't a penalty will be treated as if it never happened ...they will however endlessly go on about what a bag egg kadri is ...the hit will only be shown out of context of the game at large ...

i don't know if the leafs would have won this game with better officiating ..they easily could have lost either way ..but it's really hard to play your game when the other team is allowed to take liberties ..it's easier to defend when you're allowed to hook and trip ..maybe someone more objective than me would say that both sides were as bad as eachother ...but i don't know ..

Gary Bettman. Jacobs family puppet.
 
herman said:
azzurri63 said:
gunnar36 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.

Technically there?s no such thing as a good crosscheck to the head.

https://twitter.com/peteblackburn/status/1117254520730521601

When I say good I mean it was malicious, vicious or made contact with the head. Obviously there is no such thing as a good crosscheck to the head. The intent was there but again have to see it again. Don?t think it was as bad as it looked. Debrusk was asking for it all night unfortunately Naz doesn?t know when and how to pick his spots.
 
herman said:
azzurri63 said:
gunnar36 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
One thing about a possible Kadri suspension: the refs invited the game to get out of hand, and surprise! it did.

IMO, the DeBrusk knee on Kadri looks more suspendable than the Kadri stick on DeBrusk.

Like I said at first live looked like a good crosscheck to the head. When I saw the replay it looked like he missed the head and then just drove him into the ice. Have to see it again.

Technically there?s no such thing as a good crosscheck to the head.

https://twitter.com/peteblackburn/status/1117254520730521601
Hard to defend that. Let's hope he gets a fine. Doubt it. He'll bring up the knee on knee thing for a defense tho.  We'll see.
 
Gender Bender said:
Palmateer29 said:
Gender Bender said:
Palmateer29 said:
Bullfrog said:
lc9 said:
Gender Bender said:
lc9 said:
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isn?t an xfactor.  Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.  I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
So giving away a good player. Yeah we haven't done that before.
He's a good player at 5 million a year, he's way over paid at 7. He's soft at the best of times, make great offensive plays if there's a chance he can score otherwise he skates around the net and throws it away, or like everyone else on the team (which Boston has figured out) he skates into the zone and stops and cuts back which works if you don't do it every time you enter the offensive zone. Just wondering which good player that we were overpaying did we give away? Phaneuf? Colburne?
The Leafs have a history of giving away good players who end up becoming better elsewhere and you know it. I don't have the patience to dig up the research but off the top of my head Steve Sullivan, Alex Steen, Anton Stralman, Kenny Jonsson. I'm not saying don't trade him. I'm saying you will get trash value in return on a down year.

It is poor asset management to sell low on a player. It's a really basic concept. I really hope you don't buy your own stocks.
Steen was a stupid trade, Sullivan meh, Stralman was stupid trade. In order to get rid of that crap contract they signed him to they are going to have to lose out on the trade...unless he disappears to Robidas island... If you massively overpay for stocks sometimes you have to cut your losses and take what you can get. Not saying they have to take what they can get for him but he would look good in a package going somewhere else
 
azzurri63 said:
crazyperfectdevil said:
i'm frustrated with kadri ..at the same time ..i'm more so with the officiating ...does that kadri hit happen if the officials call the game?  i don't think so..that knee on knee could have ended kadri's season ..but there won't be any talk about that over the next few days ...the fact that it wasn't a penalty will be treated as if it never happened ...they will however endlessly go on about what a bag egg kadri is ...the hit will only be shown out of context of the game at large ...

i don't know if the leafs would have won this game with better officiating ..they easily could have lost either way ..but it's really hard to play your game when the other team is allowed to take liberties ..it's easier to defend when you're allowed to hook and trip ..maybe someone more objective than me would say that both sides were as bad as eachother ...but i don't know ..

Gary Bettman. Jacobs family puppet.
If Kadri gets suspended but Debrusk gets 0 you can thank Jeremy Jacobs. This is where his influence is on full display
 
Zee said:
azzurri63 said:
crazyperfectdevil said:
i'm frustrated with kadri ..at the same time ..i'm more so with the officiating ...does that kadri hit happen if the officials call the game?  i don't think so..that knee on knee could have ended kadri's season ..but there won't be any talk about that over the next few days ...the fact that it wasn't a penalty will be treated as if it never happened ...they will however endlessly go on about what a bag egg kadri is ...the hit will only be shown out of context of the game at large ...

i don't know if the leafs would have won this game with better officiating ..they easily could have lost either way ..but it's really hard to play your game when the other team is allowed to take liberties ..it's easier to defend when you're allowed to hook and trip ..maybe someone more objective than me would say that both sides were as bad as eachother ...but i don't know ..

Gary Bettman. Jacobs family puppet.
If Kadri gets suspended but Debrusk gets 0 you can thank Jeremy Jacobs. This is where his influence is on full display
Not only will debrusk not get suspended ..it won't even be contemplated ..i'd love to be wrong on this ..but there's no way ...i just have to hope that next game's officials actually call things
 
Palmateer29 said:
Gender Bender said:
Palmateer29 said:
Gender Bender said:
Palmateer29 said:
Bullfrog said:
lc9 said:
Gender Bender said:
lc9 said:
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isn?t an xfactor.  Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.  I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
So giving away a good player. Yeah we haven't done that before.
He's a good player at 5 million a year, he's way over paid at 7. He's soft at the best of times, make great offensive plays if there's a chance he can score otherwise he skates around the net and throws it away, or like everyone else on the team (which Boston has figured out) he skates into the zone and stops and cuts back which works if you don't do it every time you enter the offensive zone. Just wondering which good player that we were overpaying did we give away? Phaneuf? Colburne?
The Leafs have a history of giving away good players who end up becoming better elsewhere and you know it. I don't have the patience to dig up the research but off the top of my head Steve Sullivan, Alex Steen, Anton Stralman, Kenny Jonsson. I'm not saying don't trade him. I'm saying you will get trash value in return on a down year.

It is poor asset management to sell low on a player. It's a really basic concept. I really hope you don't buy your own stocks.
Steen was a stupid trade, Sullivan meh, Stralman was stupid trade. In order to get rid of that crap contract they signed him to they are going to have to lose out on the trade...unless he disappears to Robidas island... If you massively overpay for stocks sometimes you have to cut your losses and take what you can get. Not saying they have to take what they can get for him but he would look good in a package going somewhere else
You cut your losses when you think there's absolutely no chance of rebound. Just like in hockey there's analysis done on a number of factors, like in hockey, future growth. Just like in hockey you don't trade on your emotions, and Willie is striking those in you.

You don't cut your losses because you overpaid and are pissed it didn't meet expectations in an arbitrarily short period of time.
 
Stronger Than All said:
He?s getting suspended for sure.  Only thing to hopenfor is just 1 game.  I can not believe we are this position again.

If it's one game, we can live with that.

If it's five games, call it The Kadri (playoff) Curse.  😔

Hope we are so wrong as to be right (1 game suspension only please DOPS).  🙇
 
crazyperfectdevil said:
Not only will debrusk not get suspended ..it won't even be contemplated ..i'd love to be wrong on this ..but there's no way ...i just have to hope that next game's officials actually call things

What would DeBrusk be suspended for?
 
Bullfrog said:
crazyperfectdevil said:
Not only will debrusk not get suspended ..it won't even be contemplated ..i'd love to be wrong on this ..but there's no way ...i just have to hope that next game's officials actually call things

What would DeBrusk be suspended for?

Kneeing?  But I think they look at that and say, not intentional.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
What did Babcock have to say about all this post-game?

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/04/14/mike-babcock-post-game-bruins-4-vs-leafs-1-2/
 

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