CarltonTheBear said:It was basically the most predictable episode ever, but I still really enjoyed it. The whole episode was just shot terrifically well. Sansa's one bad-ass witch.
Don't mess with the Sansa, wonder what littlefinger cost?
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CarltonTheBear said:It was basically the most predictable episode ever, but I still really enjoyed it. The whole episode was just shot terrifically well. Sansa's one bad-ass witch.
herman said:More than anything, this season has not been subtle and fans have probably given the show too much credit in certain aspects of the plot.
Shaggy Dog head, probably a ploy to curry favour for sneak attack? Nope, actually Shaggy Dog.
Arya stabbed; probably Ja'qen fulfilling his promise? Nope, it was just Arya.
Jaime and Brienne make eyes with heartfelt conversation; Bronn: "I wonder when they'll get a room."
Smalljon Umber with a secret plan because he didn't bend the knee to Ramsay? Nope, Smalljon is just a turd.
bustaheims said:herman said:More than anything, this season has not been subtle and fans have probably given the show too much credit in certain aspects of the plot.
Shaggy Dog head, probably a ploy to curry favour for sneak attack? Nope, actually Shaggy Dog.
Arya stabbed; probably Ja'qen fulfilling his promise? Nope, it was just Arya.
Jaime and Brienne make eyes with heartfelt conversation; Bronn: "I wonder when they'll get a room."
Smalljon Umber with a secret plan because he didn't bend the knee to Ramsay? Nope, Smalljon is just a turd.
Though, to be fair, in a lot of those cases, I feel like a lot of the areas where fans were giving the show too much credit were also cases of the fans forgetting what show they were watching. It's Game of Thrones. When bad things happen, they're generally just straight up bad things. When good things happen, they generally lead to bad things. Always expect the worst. Always.
Nik the Trik said:Although Rickon, man, serpentine.
CarltonTheBear said:Nik the Trik said:Although Rickon, man, serpentine.
He clearly went to the Prometheus School of Running Away from Things.
bustaheims said:Ha. I basically forgot Dorne existed. Nothing has happened with that storyline since, what, the 2nd episode?
herman said:Episode 1, I believe.
However, Yara and Theon zipped past them (off screen) when they sailed around the entire continent from the Iron Isles to Volantis. And then covered a similar distance to reach Meereen through a coastal siege and dragonfire.
bustaheims said:I'm guessing that the Dorne stuff will come into play again next season, what with the whole "women being in charge" thing seeming like it's going to be a major theme.
Nik the Trik said:So here's something I didn't entirely understand. Were we supposed to think that Littlefinger's Army only showed up when they did? Or that they were waiting for the right moment to strike? Because if it's the former it's kind of dicey for Sansa not to tell people she'd asked for help from him(although I guess it works dramatically even if it's a bit deus ex machina-y) but if it's the latter I guess it falls back into the idea of everyone being exactly as capable as they're needed to be from moment to moment given the purposes of the show. Ramsay was more or less Batman when dealing with Stannis' army but dopey as the Freys from an episode ago if he let an army of that size sneak up on him.
CarltonTheBear said:
Really though, I think they just felt it would make better (albeit like I said extremely predictable) television.
bustaheims said:herman said:Episode 1, I believe.
However, Yara and Theon zipped past them (off screen) when they sailed around the entire continent from the Iron Isles to Volantis. And then covered a similar distance to reach Meereen through a coastal siege and dragonfire.
I'm guessing that the Dorne stuff will come into play again next season, what with the whole "women being in charge" thing seeming like it's going to be a major theme.
CarltonTheBear said:Nik the Trik said:So here's something I didn't entirely understand. Were we supposed to think that Littlefinger's Army only showed up when they did? Or that they were waiting for the right moment to strike? Because if it's the former it's kind of dicey for Sansa not to tell people she'd asked for help from him(although I guess it works dramatically even if it's a bit deus ex machina-y) but if it's the latter I guess it falls back into the idea of everyone being exactly as capable as they're needed to be from moment to moment given the purposes of the show. Ramsay was more or less Batman when dealing with Stannis' army but dopey as the Freys from an episode ago if he let an army of that size sneak up on him.
I'm guessing it was the former. They likely showed up where Jon's army was stationed, met up with Sansa there and they rode out together to the battlefield. Why Sansa never mentioned anything to Jon about it is still up in the air. I'm guessing maybe she wasn't very confident that Littlefinger would come through, or she felt that Jon wouldn't trust him. I don't really think Jon's aware of all the sketchy stuff Littlefinger's done though so I'm not sure about that.
Really though, I think they just felt it would make better (albeit like I said extremely predictable) television.
CarltonTheBear said:Nik the Trik said:Although Rickon, man, serpentine.
He clearly went to the Prometheus School of Running Away from Things.
herman said:bustaheims said:herman said:Episode 1, I believe.
However, Yara and Theon zipped past them (off screen) when they sailed around the entire continent from the Iron Isles to Volantis. And then covered a similar distance to reach Meereen through a coastal siege and dragonfire.
I'm guessing that the Dorne stuff will come into play again next season, what with the whole "women being in charge" thing seeming like it's going to be a major theme.
Yeah, Westeros is being primed for Daenerys.
CarltonTheBear said:Nik the Trik said:So here's something I didn't entirely understand. Were we supposed to think that Littlefinger's Army only showed up when they did? Or that they were waiting for the right moment to strike? Because if it's the former it's kind of dicey for Sansa not to tell people she'd asked for help from him(although I guess it works dramatically even if it's a bit deus ex machina-y) but if it's the latter I guess it falls back into the idea of everyone being exactly as capable as they're needed to be from moment to moment given the purposes of the show. Ramsay was more or less Batman when dealing with Stannis' army but dopey as the Freys from an episode ago if he let an army of that size sneak up on him.
I'm guessing it was the former. They likely showed up where Jon's army was stationed, met up with Sansa there and they rode out together to the battlefield. Why Sansa never mentioned anything to Jon about it is still up in the air. I'm guessing maybe she wasn't very confident that Littlefinger would come through, or she felt that Jon wouldn't trust him. I don't really think Jon's aware of all the sketchy stuff Littlefinger's done though so I'm not sure about that.
Really though, I think they just felt it would make better (albeit like I said extremely predictable) television.
It's Gandalf at Helm's Deep. But more pervy.
I think Sansa didn't tell Jon because she didn't know if Littlefinger would actually show up. Jon also has that Starkian disdain for maneuvers (both political and tactical).
Tactically, that was the perfect time for a flanking attack by a hidden army, and I wouldn't be surprised if Littlefinger had a say in when to strike; any earlier and there would be more attrition with just as much guarantee of saving the vanguard/all of Jon's army.
CarltonTheBear said:I'm guessing it was the former. They likely showed up where Jon's army was stationed, met up with Sansa there and they rode out together to the battlefield. Why Sansa never mentioned anything to Jon about it is still up in the air. I'm guessing maybe she wasn't very confident that Littlefinger would come through, or she felt that Jon wouldn't trust him. I don't really think Jon's aware of all the sketchy stuff Littlefinger's done though so I'm not sure about that.
Really though, I think they just felt it would make better (albeit like I said extremely predictable) television.