Nik the Trik said:
MetalRaven said:
I recently watched the movie "goon" (good movie I thought there were some good funny parts) and one of the pieces of advice given to the main character (the goon) is "You're a goon, you're paid to fight, dont go thinking you're a hockey player" and thats whats wrong with rc. He is firm in his belief that Orr is a genuine hockey player that hits. Nonis needs to Trade Orr away and get a 3rd line player who can play hockey and occasionally fights. I like Orr, He punches faces good. However hes not a good hockey player, not better then the options we already have.
Its time to show RC some tough love, and take away his toys.
It's important not to confuse the symptom with the cause though. Carlyle isn't the only coach in the league who has a player like Orr and who gives him ample opportunities to be in the game. Carlyle's use of Orr isn't noteworthy in terms of ice time either, as Carlyle uses his face punchers about as much as other teams use theirs.
The issue with Carlyle, if you're gung ho about the team winning right now, is that he's not using his team and roster as effectively as possible given their strengths and weaknesses. Orr isn't really a major factor there but, rather, he's an example of how Carlyle isn't changing things up in response to the wall they've hit.
Well thats what im saying, I don't find that Orr's ice time is particularly high, just too high for the situations were in on a night to night basis. Im not just gung ho about winning right now, im gung ho about them winning always. Losing sucks and I don't like it. Which is why rc's decisions to play Orr over the younger rookie players upsets me in two ways. I think I understand why he does it, Orr is more experienced and less likely to make rookie style mistakes, my counter point is this: (Right now) Lets assume losing 2-1, id still rather put a d'amigo on the ice in the hopes that he might score, then put on an Orr and know hes not going to score. If D'Amigo makes a mistake? Well, we tried to win it, but didn't and hopefully he learned something (Future). Young players need to make mistakes, and more importantly they need to know how to handle themselves in tight situations and be confident that they know whats expected of them. I don't think they are getting enough of that experience. I think Carlyle uses Orr as a form of experienced safety net over a higher risk gamble. The coach is responsible for who he puts on the ice, the GM is responsible for who he has to choose from. Nonis needs to take away that safety net cause its terrible (hockey player-wise I love Orr as an enforcer, hitting guy) and either replace it with something better or force the coach out of his comfort zone and get him to start choosing some high-risk high-reward rookie players.
Or we could all do some kinda mass-meditation thing and WILL Orr into becoming an awesome hockey player...I mean we do have a lot of people...
