Gleason traded to Toronto for Liles

[AvroArrow]

I'm surprised that most people dislike this trade...  We move a guy Carlyle obviously doesn't want and won't use for someone who could potentially be an upgrade over one of Ranger or Fraser.

Worst case, he's just a bit of extra salary ($125k) who also sits in the press box or minors.  Seems worth a shot, given the teams performance.

 

[gunnar36]

Is Gleason taking minutes away from Ranger a terrible thing?

Ranger skates better and handles the puck better than Gleason. They are about the same size, and Ranger seems to be playing a little more physical since his stint in the pressbox.

So yeah, probably.

Don't quite get this either. I thought Ranger has been playing quite well lately and has a size & speed advantage over Gleason.  It would be too bad to see him stapled to the press box again now. 

 

[gunnar36]

I'm surprised that most people dislike this trade...  We move a guy Carlyle obviously doesn't want and won't use for someone who could potentially be an upgrade over one of Ranger or Fraser.

Worst case, he's just a bit of extra salary ($125k) who also sits in the press box or minors.  Seems worth a shot, given the teams performance.

The big problem is cap space being taken up by a 7th dman.

 

[Bates]

The cap space is a wash and we can buyout Gleason just as easy as Liles.  No money issues with this trade.

 

[bustaheims]

Buy-out information from LeafsNation:

                        Liles Buyout Gleason Buyout
2014-2015       $916,666.67 $833,333.33
2015-2016       $2,416,666.67 $1,833,333.33
2016-2017       $1,291,666.67 $1,333,333.33
2017-2018       $1,291,666.67 $1,333,333.33

Their numbers on Liles are wrong. According to capgeek, they should be this:

2014-15: $791,667
2015-16: $2,291,667
2016-17: $1,166,667
2017-18: $1,166,667

 

[leafplasma]

I'm surprised that most people dislike this trade...  We move a guy Carlyle obviously doesn't want and won't use for someone who could potentially be an upgrade over one of Ranger or Fraser.

Worst case, he's just a bit of extra salary ($125k) who also sits in the press box or minors.  Seems worth a shot, given the teams performance.

Completely agree, worst case scenario is what you said.  So much promise though for this to be a steal of a deal and if is doesn't so what.

 

[MetalRaven]

I dont know much about Gleason anybody know if hes any good at pinching or holding the blueline in the offensive zone?

Also I have to say Ranger hasn't been making me cringe as much lately

 

[Kin]

I'm surprised that most people dislike this trade...  We move a guy Carlyle obviously doesn't want and won't use for someone who could potentially be an upgrade over one of Ranger or Fraser.

Worst case, he's just a bit of extra salary ($125k) who also sits in the press box or minors.  Seems worth a shot, given the teams performance.

I suppose the thinking is that realistically this is a swap of guys who are borderline NHL defensemen but that the Leafs are taking the bigger cap hit and throwing in the prospect.

 

[ZBBM]

I hate it that Carlyle is dictating roster decisions.

 

[Kin]

I hate it that Carlyle is dictating roster decisions.

You'd rather it be left to the people who decided to hire the worst coach in hockey history?

 

[lamajama]

I hate it that Carlyle is dictating roster decisions.

You'd rather it be left to the people who decided to hire the worst coach in hockey history?

Oh you kid!

Nicely done 

 

[Redleaf]

I'm surprised that most people dislike this trade...  We move a guy Carlyle obviously doesn't want and won't use for someone who could potentially be an upgrade over one of Ranger or Fraser.

Worst case, he's just a bit of extra salary ($125k) who also sits in the press box or minors.  Seems worth a shot, given the teams performance.

I suppose the thinking is that realistically this is a swap of guys who are borderline NHL defensemen but that the Leafs are taking the bigger cap hit and throwing in the prospect.

Gleason is a borderline NHL player? His play must have dropped off pretty badly since he was selected to the US Olympic team in 2010.

 

[AvroArrow]

I'm surprised that most people dislike this trade...  We move a guy Carlyle obviously doesn't want and won't use for someone who could potentially be an upgrade over one of Ranger or Fraser.

Worst case, he's just a bit of extra salary ($125k) who also sits in the press box or minors.  Seems worth a shot, given the teams performance.

The big problem is cap space being taken up by a 7th dman.

Except Liles was taking up the same, less $125k.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Gleason is a borderline NHL player? His play must have dropped off pretty badly since he was selected to the US Olympic team in 2010.

It has. Carolina wouldn't be trading him for Liles if he hadn't.

 

[Kin]

Gleason is a borderline NHL player? His play must have dropped off pretty badly since he was selected to the US Olympic team in 2010.

He's been getting 15 minutes a night on a pretty mediocre defensive group.

 

[bustaheims]

You'd rather it be left to the people who decided to hire the worst coach in hockey history?

Burke is in Calgary now. Nonis lobbied heavily for Eakins - not that he's necessarily looking like a better option, either.

 

[Kin]

You'd rather it be left to the people who decided to hire the worst coach in hockey history?

Burke is in Calgary now. Nonis lobbied heavily for Eakins - not that he's necessarily looking like a better option, either.

Fine. "Continue employing" then.

 

[bustaheims]

You'd rather it be left to the people who decided to hire the worst coach in hockey history?

Burke is in Calgary now. Nonis lobbied heavily for Eakins - not that he's necessarily looking like a better option, either.

Fine. "Continue employing" then.

Much better.

 

[brothert]

Carolina has a spot for Komisarek but not Gleason. Something tells me we aren't going to be happy with this trade.

 

[Bates]

Carolina has a place for $700K Komisarek but not for $4 million Gleason.  Easy to see the difference.