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Grabovski Bought Out

cw said:
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 6m
Just got off the phone with Grabovski: "Of course I feel [expletive] sad, I played [expletive] five years here."

such bad language! You'd think he was talking to that potty mouthed Rob DelMundo or sumpthin'??..

O:-)
 
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/mikhail-grabovski-takes-bite-randy-carlyle-blast-lack-232028600.html

Incredibly, while Grabovski admitted he was "sad", these quotes don't come from a man at his lowest.

"I'm [expletive] happy right now," he told TSN.

I'm going to miss him.
 
Bullfrog said:
I understand this move from Nonis's perspective, but I'm still angry about it. Given Carlyle's history with players like Lupul, Getzlaf, and now Grabovski, I'd take a close look at the coach.

McClement was more than capable of being that main shut down, defensive centre. I would have let Grabovski loose on offense. Play to your strengths.

Well, as long as all of Carlyle's first line-up choices take pucks to the face, we'll ice the team that plays to our strengths. No worries.
 
From the Siegel interview:

Communication ? or lack thereof ? was in some ways at the crux of the matter. Grabovski and the head coach rarely spoke, most of the conversation instead streaming through assistant coaches Greg Cronin and Scott Gordon.

This doesn't really support the view that Carlyle is a "great communicator." With Kadri, maybe. Throughout the line-up, not so much. Looks a lot like Wilson, but with different favorites.

Though, of course, ice time could've told you that...
 
LittleHockeyFan said:
cw said:
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 6m
Just got off the phone with Grabovski: "Of course I feel [expletive] sad, I played [expletive] five years here."

such bad language! You'd think he was talking to that potty mouthed Rob DelMundo or sumpthin'??..

O:-)

Now, imagine Bozak's interview after he leaves to sign in Dallas because the Leafs wouldn't destroy their salary structure to retain him.
 
"I'm [expletive] happy right now," he told TSN.ca

"Of course I feel [expletive] sad," he continued...

You stay classy, Grabo-diego
 
Well you cannot put up those [expletive] numbers (by which I mean [expletive] goals, [expletive] assists and [expletive] contract) and expect to [expletive] stay or that some [expletive] GM elsewhere in the[expletive] league will be [expletive] stupid enough to trade for you.

That should be [expletive] clear to even the casual [expletive] observer.
 
KW Sluggo said:
Well you cannot put up those [expletive] numbers (by which I mean [expletive] goals, [expletive] assists and [expletive] contract) and expect to [expletive] stay or that some [expletive] GM elsewhere in the[expletive] league will be [expletive] stupid enough to trade for you.

That should be [expletive] clear to even the casual [expletive] observer.
Yeah he should have said thank you mr. Carlyle for putting me in a situation where I was going to struggle and then cut me loose from a place where I actually enjoyed playing. People should be allowed to wear their heart on their sleeve more and say what they really feel.  Its one of the beefs I have with mr hom hum kessel who is possibly one of  the worst leafs interviewees ever behind the borschevsky interview post game 7 vs detroit. 
 
drummond said:
Bender said:
drummond said:
Is Jake Gardiner next? He may have isues with Carlyle too... just saying


The sky is... nevermind.

I think Nonis bought out Grabbo because he needed to keep Liles.  And he wanted to keep Liles because he has a deal for the 1C in the works that likely will include Gardiner.  It makes no sense to not buy out Liles unless you need him.
I thought the deal was Phaneuf for Joe Thornton.
 
Looking only at what's happened so far, I think the Leafs mismanaged how they applied the asset, across the board. The compliance buyout should not have had to be used on this guy.

I'm not entirely on board with Grabbo's latest comments after the fact but at least it gives a little insight into the situation and, for that kind of candor too, I'm going to miss him in blue and white.

Nonis really needs to have something more than a sideways move up his sleeve here.
 
I get that Grabovski  is upset and is a hot head but he really should have taken the high road here. 

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I knew Grabbo might of had some issues with Carlyle or vice versa but I didn't see this one coming , trade yes but a buyout ? Nonis you got some splainin to do.
 
KW Sluggo said:
Well you cannot put up those [expletive] numbers (by which I mean [expletive] goals, [expletive] assists and [expletive] contract) and expect to [expletive] stay or that some [expletive] GM elsewhere in the[expletive] league will be [expletive] stupid enough to trade for you.

That should be [expletive] clear to even the casual [expletive] observer.

Because putting it in words and numbers seems to be asking too much of some:

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13th fan said:
I knew Grabbo might of had some issues with Carlyle or vice versa but I didn't see this one coming , trade yes but a buyout ? Nonis you got some splainin to do.

Lebrun said they tried to trade him but there wasn't any interest.

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Yes, let's all blame Carlyle for grabbos inability to produce. Sure he played a different role, but for 5.5 you percervere(sp). So we over paid for a one dimensional player and nonis fixed that. Kadri can easily replace grabbs. Listen to him now, how well of a teammate was he in the dressing room? My gosh people, we haven't gotten that much worse but can get a lot better with the money saved.

Ps no one is trading for an overpriced second line player when the caps going down. 
 
Lee-bo said:
Yes, let's all blame Carlyle for grabbos inability to produce. Sure he played a different role, but for 5.5 you percervere(sp). So we over paid for a one dimensional player and nonis fixed that. Kadri can easily replace grabbs. Listen to him now, how well of a teammate was he in the dressing room? My gosh people, we haven't gotten that much worse but can get a lot better with the money saved.

Ps no one is trading for an overpriced second line player when the caps going down.

Wow. You do know, I hope, that you're posting these deep thoughts on the internet, where several sources can be found to conceal you tenuous grasp on the language, no?
 
Lee-bo said:
Yes, let's all blame Carlyle for grabbos inability to produce. Sure he played a different role, but for 5.5 you percervere(sp). So we over paid for a one dimensional player and nonis fixed that. Kadri can easily replace grabbs. Listen to him now, how well of a teammate was he in the dressing room? My gosh people, we haven't gotten that much worse but can get a lot better with the money saved.

Ps no one is trading for an overpriced second line player when the caps going down.

One that many cited as being a player who gave a huge effort every game? One of the few some games? That guy?
 
Zee said:
I get that Grabovski  is upset and is a hot head but he really should have taken the high road here. 

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Normally, I agree wholeheartedly. But in this particular case, it reminded some of Grabbo as a player. When he got knocked down, as he often did, he got back up feisty and charged back into the fray. He doesn't have great command of the language and I think he's wears his heart on his sleeve. So I'm cutting him some slack.

Between the defensive role forced on him, his situation & drop in ice time he was given and his intestine issues (losing weight, etc), I'm prepared to cut him a bit of a mulligan. I do not believe this season fairly represents his ability and it wasn't all his fault.

I think he'll come back and do decently as a 2nd line scoring center.

As for the knock on his not dishing the puck, he is a shooting center. But the offensive chaos the Kulemin-Grabbo-MacArthur line created in transition in seasons past led MacArthur & Kulemin to career highs offensively and I sincerely question that Grabbo doesn't deserve some credit for that.
 
JohnK's Revenge said:
KW Sluggo said:
Well you cannot put up those [expletive] numbers (by which I mean [expletive] goals, [expletive] assists and [expletive] contract) and expect to [expletive] stay or that some [expletive] GM elsewhere in the[expletive] league will be [expletive] stupid enough to trade for you.

That should be [expletive] clear to even the casual [expletive] observer.
Yeah he should have said thank you mr. Carlyle for putting me in a situation where I was going to struggle and then cut me loose from a place where I actually enjoyed playing. People should be allowed to wear their heart on their sleeve more and say what they really feel.  Its one of the beefs I have with mr hom hum kessel who is possibly one of  the worst leafs interviewees ever behind the borschevsky interview post game 7 vs detroit.

Since you appreciate the candid shoot from the lip interview style how about this:

Perhaps Gabbo could offer thanks to himself for playing his way onto the fourth line in the first place and then being unable to carry out fourth line duties while expecting an other uninterrupted four years being paid as a first line centre.

Of course not.

It is so much easier to presume that Carlyle wanted him to fail by banishing a thoroughbred scorer to plough horse duty.

The numbers are what they are and in this instace, they're not all good. In fact none of them are good.

Grabovski did not produce at a level remotely commensurate with expectations (including his own). Today's result should have been obvious to everyone.

In fact the only question I had was:what the [expletive] took them so long???  (the answer is they tried to trade him but couldn't).

Now that last circumstance ought to tell you and Grabbo something, namely, that this is not merely the judgement of David Nonis, of KW Sluggo or of a handful of malcontent know nothings, it is the value placed on Grabbo by the marketplace...and that marketplace does not see him as a $4.5M centre over the next four years whose shortcomings were the result of a coach's vendetta.

Now that would make for an interesting interview.

In the interim maybe he can use some of that buy-out cash to polish his vocabulary.
 

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