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Leafs 2013/2014 Schedule in 10 game chunks

freer said:
Kind of getting tired of the statement that Bozak is not a #1 center. 5 pts in two games, what else does anyone want from a #1 center. He is what we have. Time for people here to learn to live with it. Kadri is never going to to be better then a #2. lets praise the player who claims the team down when he is playing. Thank you Mr Bozak.... Just saying.

Here's what's wrong with the above:

"Kind of getting tired of the statement that Bozak Kadri is not a #1 center. 5 44 pts in two 48 games, what else does anyone want from a #1 center."

Grabovski, incidentally, had 5 points in two games to start the season. Guess he's a 1C, too? 

I get that Bozak's the 1C, and the Leafs are stuck with him, so it's in fans' interests to see him as a good 1C. But the number of players who've had 5 points in two games is very long, and not many are 1Cs.

I've been pleased by what I've seen of Bozak this year, and I'm looking to see how he maintains after 20 straight games in the line-up. If he's this year's Lupul, playing half the games and scoring at a 1+ ppg pace... well, that'd be fine too, I guess. 
 
mr grieves said:
freer said:
Kind of getting tired of the statement that Bozak is not a #1 center. 5 pts in two games, what else does anyone want from a #1 center. He is what we have. Time for people here to learn to live with it. Kadri is never going to to be better then a #2. lets praise the player who claims the team down when he is playing. Thank you Mr Bozak.... Just saying.

Here's what's wrong with the above:

"Kind of getting tired of the statement that Bozak Kadri is not a #1 center. 5 44 pts in two 48 games, what else does anyone want from a #1 center."

Grabovski, incidentally, had 5 points in two games to start the season. Guess he's a 1C, too? 

I get that Bozak's the 1C, and the Leafs are stuck with him, so it's in fans' interests to see him as a good 1C. But the number of players who've had 5 points in two games is very long, and not many are 1Cs.

I've been pleased by what I've seen of Bozak this year, and I'm looking to see how he maintains after 20 straight games in the line-up. If he's this year's Lupul, playing half the games and scoring at a 1+ ppg pace... well, that'd be fine too, I guess.

You mean 23 points in 38 games for Kadri right?

He's been playing a little more this year, but production has fallen.

He could put it together, and we've seen him play better last year in a more insulated role.  Obviously on a per game basis, Bozak has clearly been a better producer this year.
 
I too am in the boat of that a #1C is not a high priority.  Bozak and Kessel have undeniable chemistry, and as long as they are in the lineup, they should play together.  I am completely fine with Kadri being #2C.

I do feel though that Bozak is a bit under appreciated.  I always wonder what would have happened in game 7 had he played and not been injured.
 
If Bozak keeps scoring at a 68-point pace I won't complain about him at the end of the season. But I'm pretty sure that 26.3% shooting percentage is going to drop. So I'm all for enjoying this offensive performance while it lasts, but lets not look at it as anything more than just a hot streak. Just like Kadri last season.
 
Frank E said:
You mean 23 points in 38 games for Kadri right?

He's been playing a little more this year, but production has fallen.

He could put it together, and we've seen him play better last year in a more insulated role.  Obviously on a per game basis, Bozak has clearly been a better producer this year.

No, I meant what I wrote. And I didn't mean he was a 1C either.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
If Bozak keeps scoring at a 68-point pace I won't complain about him at the end of the season. But I'm pretty sure that 26.3% shooting percentage is going to drop. So I'm all for enjoying this offensive performance while it lasts, but lets not look at it as anything more than just a hot streak. Just like Kadri last season.

His career shooting percentage is north of 16%, so, maybe if he starts shooting a little more instead of always looking to give the puck to Kessel, he might be able to counteract the inevitable regression. ;D

Seriously, though, he could easily double his shots per game without taking the puck away from Kessel or JvR enough for it change their production, but, it would at least make the other team have to consider playing the shot when he has the puck.
 
Frank E said:
mr grieves said:
freer said:
Kind of getting tired of the statement that Bozak is not a #1 center. 5 pts in two games, what else does anyone want from a #1 center. He is what we have. Time for people here to learn to live with it. Kadri is never going to to be better then a #2. lets praise the player who claims the team down when he is playing. Thank you Mr Bozak.... Just saying.

Here's what's wrong with the above:

"Kind of getting tired of the statement that Bozak Kadri is not a #1 center. 5 44 pts in two 48 games, what else does anyone want from a #1 center."

Grabovski, incidentally, had 5 points in two games to start the season. Guess he's a 1C, too? 

I get that Bozak's the 1C, and the Leafs are stuck with him, so it's in fans' interests to see him as a good 1C. But the number of players who've had 5 points in two games is very long, and not many are 1Cs.

I've been pleased by what I've seen of Bozak this year, and I'm looking to see how he maintains after 20 straight games in the line-up. If he's this year's Lupul, playing half the games and scoring at a 1+ ppg pace... well, that'd be fine too, I guess.

You mean 23 points in 38 games for Kadri right?

He's been playing a little more this year, but production has fallen.

He could put it together, and we've seen him play better last year in a more insulated role.  Obviously on a per game basis, Bozak has clearly been a better producer this year.

This year.  Yes, Bozak is producting at a better pace.  In fact, if he continues to produce at his current pace I would argue he is giving you Top 30 center calibre hockey if his faceoff production gets back to normal and he continues to be a decent PKer/defensive forward.

The flip side to that would be.  Kadri has played 38 games this year to Bozak's 18 games.  It gives more time for regression to their mean production.  20 games into the year Kadri had 16 points (65.6points/82games).  Prior to these last two games, Bozak had 10 points in 16 games (51 point season).  With the additional 5 points he's now on a 68 point pace.

Bozak is 27 and his best offensive season is 47 points in 73 games.  His second best season is 32 points in 82 games.  His best pace-production season is for 60 points/82games (27 points in 37 games).

Kadri's career high of 44 points in 48 games almost matches Bozak's best season over a full season.  And this year he has 23 points in 38 games (a 50 point pace year).  He's 23. 

Ultimately there are still flaws in Kadri's game, and he didn't have the greatest audition on that top line, but it is really shortsighted to declare him not a #1 on the basis of a 12 games stretch on the top line.  Especially when Kessel pretty much went through one of his two annual 7-10 game stretches with no goals and the odd assist despite numerous scoring chances periods. 
 
bustaheims said:
His career shooting percentage is north of 16%, so, maybe if he starts shooting a little more instead of always looking to give the puck to Kessel, he might be able to counteract the inevitable regression. ;D

Seriously, though, he could easily double his shots per game without taking the puck away from Kessel or JvR enough for it change their production, but, it would at least make the other team have to consider playing the shot when he has the puck.

I had no idea his shooting percentage was that high. Stamkos is the only player that I can find with a higher one among players with a few seasons under their belt. Obviously that has more do with low shot totals than it does with his elite shooting ability, but why the coaching staff hasn't forced him to try shooting more is beyond me.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
His career shooting percentage is north of 16%, so, maybe if he starts shooting a little more instead of always looking to give the puck to Kessel, he might be able to counteract the inevitable regression. ;D

Seriously, though, he could easily double his shots per game without taking the puck away from Kessel or JvR enough for it change their production, but, it would at least make the other team have to consider playing the shot when he has the puck.

I had no idea his shooting percentage was that high. Stamkos is the only player that I can find with a higher one among players with a few seasons under their belt. Obviously that has more do with low shot totals than it does with his elite shooting ability, but why the coaching staff hasn't forced him to try shooting more is beyond me.

I am not going to argue with anyone here. I would prefer a defensively sound center on the top line who may get 50 pts compared to a defensive liability who gets 60 pts.... Just saying
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
His career shooting percentage is north of 16%, so, maybe if he starts shooting a little more instead of always looking to give the puck to Kessel, he might be able to counteract the inevitable regression. ;D

Seriously, though, he could easily double his shots per game without taking the puck away from Kessel or JvR enough for it change their production, but, it would at least make the other team have to consider playing the shot when he has the puck.

I had no idea his shooting percentage was that high. Stamkos is the only player that I can find with a higher one among players with a few seasons under their belt. Obviously that has more do with low shot totals than it does with his elite shooting ability, but why the coaching staff hasn't forced him to try shooting more is beyond me.

Consider that he also shines in the shoot out and Bozak definitely should be shooting more even if he is flanked by two great shooters in Kessel and JVR.
 
Bozak sucked, this year, save for the last two games. If he keeps that up, I won't complain, but I'd he plays like earlier in the year, then I will continue to want him off the team in favour of something closer to a #1 C.
 
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See what happens when I get all positive and optimistic after the first 2 wins in this chunk?  I was like "oh those 2 NY games are easy wins, tired teams, Leafs rested blah blah blah"

I see another 2 losses coming on the road now.

Oh man, 3 games in 4 nights for the next 3.  If they don't win one of those first 2 this could get ugly.  I can't see them winning on Sunday after playing 3 in 4.  After that 3 in 4, they get the Bruins next...lovely.
 
Just want to say thanks again for doing this, Zee.  I can barely look at these charts sometime, but you don't have the luxury; you always update the stats, rain or shine.  You're a trooper.
 
Stickytape said:
Just want to say thanks again for doing this, Zee.  I can barely look at these charts sometime, but you don't have the luxury; you always update the stats, rain or shine.  You're a trooper.

Just like trying to forget it's been 47 years since a Stanley Cup, it's easier to look at smaller segments in the schedule.  You see a bit of green in a 10 game span and you think "hey things might not be so bad".  Sadly, not alot of green lately.
 
Although its been most of my life since I last saw the Leafs win I have seen them win.  Buffalo Sabres have never won since their inception in 75? 
 
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Sneak preview of the 6th chunk which takes us to the Olympic break.  Starts with a 4 game road trip.  I'd try to analyze the schedule "good" or "bad" but really at this point, the Leafs can't seem to beat anybody so it's all bad.

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Zee said:
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Sneak preview of the 6th chunk which takes us to the Olympic break.  Starts with a 4 game road trip.  I'd try to analyze the schedule "good" or "bad" but really at this point, the Leafs can't seem to beat anybody so it's all bad.

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It wouldn't surprise me if they were to find a way out of this mess, particularly in that 6th set. Of course the odds are against it happening, but if they do start winning again, and with Bolland coming back, hopefully after the break, things may start looking up again. Gotta stay optimistic, or what.....completely give up hope? I'm not turning in the towel just yet. I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm still hoping they can salvage this season.
 
RedLeaf said:
Zee said:
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Sneak preview of the 6th chunk which takes us to the Olympic break.  Starts with a 4 game road trip.  I'd try to analyze the schedule "good" or "bad" but really at this point, the Leafs can't seem to beat anybody so it's all bad.

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It wouldn't surprise me if they were to find a way out of this mess, particularly in that 6th set. Of course the odds are against it happening, but if they do start winning again, and with Bolland coming back, hopefully after the break, things may start looking up again. Gotta stay optimistic, or what.....completely give up hope? I'm not turning in the towel just yet. I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm still hoping they can salvage this season.

I don't know if your minority, but us with hope are getting overwhelmed with the negative nellies. I see a slight glimare of light at the end of the dark tunnel. Last nights game was a small look at what the team can do, the rest is up to the boys who put on the jersey.
 

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