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Leafs at World Championships

Scrivens starts over Reimer for Canada today in its quarter-final matchup against Finland. I guess Tippett thinks Scrivens is more OK than Reimer.
 
Potvin29 said:
Bonsixx said:
Scrivens starts over Reimer for Canada today in its quarter-final matchup against Finland. I guess Tippett thinks Scrivens is more OK than Reimer.
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Or he's just got the 2nd best SV% in the tournament.
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Obvious joke aside, the point was mentioning Scrivens got the start over Reimer. Not sure what you're implying with the stat, but I never meant Scrivens didn't deserve to start. But it's certainly notable for Leafs fans.
 
Implying with the stat?  If anything I was spelling it out.  I think you were the one implying something with your second sentence.  But I get the Carlyle joke.
 
I just find it interesting that Scrivens outplayed Reimer and took the starting job. It was definitely up for grabs, but Reimer certainly had the early edge based on experience.
 
Bonsixx said:
I just find it interesting that Scrivens outplayed Reimer and took the starting job. It was definitely up for grabs, but Reimer certainly had the early edge based on experience.
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Reimer's game isn't where it should be, and Scrivens has played fairly well over this past season so not much of a surprise.
 
Oh well, two weak third-period goals on Scrivens, the second coming after a brutal giveaway from Tyler Myers, and the worlds are done for another year. Good times.
 
This team was good enough to challenge for the Gold this year, but they just didn't bring along the right goaltender. You're only as good as the goalie you have, and Canada lost today because of it. It's too bad, because I think this team might have given the Russians a good run for their money.
 
RedLeaf said:
This team was good enough to challenge for the Gold this year, but they just didn't bring along the right goaltender. You're only as good as the goalie you have, and Canada lost today because of it. It's too bad, because I think this team might have given the Russians a good run for their money.
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I don't think you're wrong, but I wonder who else was available. I'm assuming the Olympic backups were not interested.

I think Canada has a depth problem in goal.
 
Tigger said:
93forever said:
Potvin29 said:
I wouldn't say Carlyle "bashes" those players.  If he does, he doesn't do it to the media.
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It was on the western road trip near the end of the season when Reimer came in for an injured Bernier and commented that he thought he played good (something to that effect).  Carlyle replied something to the point that "that was his opinion".  If I was Carlyle I would have replied in a positive manner such as "yeah he played great, gave us a chance to win and that is what we expect from our goalies".  Then behind closed doors I would have discussed with Reimer his play and performance, but again with some respect and courtesy. 

BTW that was when the collapse started and FWIW all I heard from Reimer in interviews are nothing but pleasantries and politeness.
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IIRC, Carlyle originally said he played 'ok' and Reimer was responding to that, hardly bashing.

Randy utilized his younger players just fine overall and to me was fairly gentle with his comments through the media.
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Reimer was once described (as a goaltender) as "psychologically weak".  If he felt that 'fragile' after Carlyle's "ok" comment, and if it bothered him to the point of affecting his game somewhat, then perhaps the above description holds true.

 
RedLeaf said:
This team was good enough to challenge for the Gold this year, but they just didn't bring along the right goaltender. You're only as good as the goalie you have, and Canada lost today because of it. It's too bad, because I think this team might have given the Russians a good run for their money.
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This was Canada's C/D team. Nobody should really care they lost.
 
RedLeaf said:
This team was good enough to challenge for the Gold this year, but they just didn't bring along the right goaltender. You're only as good as the goalie you have, and Canada lost today because of it. It's too bad, because I think this team might have given the Russians a good run for their money.
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If the right goaltender is one who can't possibly have a bad game in a single elimination tournament then the "right goaltender" doesn't exist for any country.
 
riff raff said:
I don't think you're wrong, but I wonder who else was available. I'm assuming the Olympic backups were not interested.

I think Canada has a depth problem in goal.
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Have you seen some of the other goalies who represented their teams this year? There were only 6 goalies in the tournament who played 30+ games in the NHL this season, and Canada was the only team to have 2 of them. 
 
CarltonTheBear said:
This was Canada's C/D team. Nobody should really care they lost.
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Yeah. I mean, it's always disappointing when Canada doesn't win a tournament, but, this one . . . well, that's pretty much the extent of it. It's disappointing, but, I'm already over it.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
riff raff said:
I don't think you're wrong, but I wonder who else was available. I'm assuming the Olympic backups were not interested.

I think Canada has a depth problem in goal.
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Have you seen some of the other goalies who represented their teams this year? There were only 6 goalies in the tournament who played 30+ games in the NHL this season, and Canada was the only team to have 2 of them.
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Not surprised that other countries are well down their depth charts but I think we always assume Canada can ice 2 or 3 competitive teams as compared to other countries.

I still find it hard to believe (and I mean no disrespect to them) that Reimer/Scrivens was the best they could do.
 
riff raff said:
I think Canada has a depth problem in goal.
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Note:  This article was written on Jan. 2014 (before the Sochi Olympics).

At all levels, Team Canada is facing a dilemma that could cause them to change the way that they develop and coach players.  This concern hasn?t fallen on deaf ears in Canada, where the CHL (which consists of the QMJHL, WHL, and OHL) has banned European goaltenders from its import draft starting in 2014.

http://thehockeywriters.com/demise-canadian-goalies/
 
riff raff said:
Not surprised that other countries are well down their depth charts but I think we always assume Canada can ice 2 or 3 competitive teams as compared to other countries.
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But don't we believe that because it's true? Isn't the discrepancy between expectations and what was delivered not that Canada can't ice a C team and be competitive but rather that losing a one goal game in the quarter-finals to another very good hockey country somehow doesn't qualify as being "competitive"?

 
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