Leafs Get Andersen from Ducks

[bustaheims]

Yeah, but I didn't even want them to crack the goalie code right now.  I thought we were still trying to be bottom 5 this year.

I'm not sure picking up a solid, but not elite level goalie changes things all that much. We've seen teams with some pretty good goalies finish near the bottom of the league in the last few years - like Lou's last team, who added a much better goalie than Andersen.

 

[Omallley]

I don't love this move. I'm with Frank in that it seems a little early to be addressing the goal.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I don't love this move. I'm with Frank in that it seems a little early to be addressing the goal.

Unless they are confident they can move one or two guys before the draft this seems a little strange.

I think if they are ready to start giving up assets to get better in the short term then Stamkos becomes a bit more likely.

 

[sneakyray]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie  30s30 seconds ago
Andersen's AAV is $5M on the button. $25M total value for five years.

 

[bustaheims]

Unless they are confident they can move one or two guys before the draft this seems a little strange.

I think if they are ready to start giving up assets to get better in the short term then Stamkos becomes a bit more likely.

I dunno. I don't see it that way. Goaltending was an area they were going to need to address next summer at the latest. They had an opportunity to do so now at a price they didn't feel was too high, so they went for it. I don't think this move is really much of an indication of anything.

 

[TBLeafer]

 

[mr grieves]

I don't love this move. I'm with Frank in that it seems a little early to be addressing the goal.

Unless they are confident they can move one or two guys before the draft this seems a little strange.

I think if they are ready to start giving up assets to get better in the short term then Stamkos becomes a bit more likely.

It's more the contract length that confuses me. Swapping picks for young talent who aligns well with core seems a reasonably smart way to try solving the goaltending problem... But to declare him the starter and give him that contract, on basis of under 150 games, seems weird. Like the sort of thing we'd crucify Dave Nonis for doing with Bernier.

 

[TBLeafer]

I don't love this move. I'm with Frank in that it seems a little early to be addressing the goal.

Unless they are confident they can move one or two guys before the draft this seems a little strange.

I think if they are ready to start giving up assets to get better in the short term then Stamkos becomes a bit more likely.

It's more the contract length that confuses me. Swapping picks for young talent who aligns well with core seems a reasonably smart way to try solving the goaltending problem... But to declare him the starter and give him that contract, on basis of under 150 games, seems weird. Like the sort of thing we'd crucify Dave Nonis for doing with Bernier.

He has the size and his last three seasons in a row have been solid.  He is now a PROVEN starter, not a potential one.

There is a difference.

 

[Redleaf]

Yeah, don't love that.

mirtle: Hearing Frederik Andersen's deal with the Leafs is $5.5-million a season. That's a big commitment for a goalie with 125 games played.

mirtle: That makes Andersen the NHL's 16th highest paid goalie in terms of cap hit.

It's not the greatest number, but probably, roughly in-line with where he'd be ranked league-wide.

Yeeesh. Hope their analytics dept has cracked the goalie code, because that's a lot of money and a lot of years at a rather odd time. Wonder why they felt compelled to make a such a strong move toward solidifying that position now?

Yeah, but I didn't even want them to crack the goalie code right now.  I thought we were still trying to be bottom 5 this year.

This is a really weird gamble/commitment here.

Jusr wait for the reaction around here when they announce the Stamkos deal.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Not sure where the huge gamble is getting a young-ish goalie and paying him a middle of the pack cap hit.

 

[TBLeafer]

Yeah, don't love that.

mirtle: Hearing Frederik Andersen's deal with the Leafs is $5.5-million a season. That's a big commitment for a goalie with 125 games played.

mirtle: That makes Andersen the NHL's 16th highest paid goalie in terms of cap hit.

It's not the greatest number, but probably, roughly in-line with where he'd be ranked league-wide.

Yeeesh. Hope their analytics dept has cracked the goalie code, because that's a lot of money and a lot of years at a rather odd time. Wonder why they felt compelled to make a such a strong move toward solidifying that position now?

Yeah, but I didn't even want them to crack the goalie code right now.  I thought we were still trying to be bottom 5 this year.

This is a really weird gamble/commitment here.

Jusr wait for the reaction around here when they announce the Stamkos deal.

Yeah, I think this is an addressing needs now with a proven NHL player kinda move. 

I am one with the Shanaplan.  8)

 

[TBLeafer]

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[TBLeafer]

Oh look.  Now we have a goalie competing in the World Cup.  8) ;D

 

[Bonsixx]

I like the deal and I like Andersen, having had him in my hockey pool the last two years.

I'm assuming the "rush" was not wanting to subject the young players to crushing goals on one of the first three shots of the game over and over again, especially if its the result of a Marner/Matthews/Nylander turnover or something. Confidence in the goalie makes players perform more confidently themselves, and all that.

That being said, the last three trades the Leafs have made for goalies have not gone overly well, so cautious optimism here. $5M a year ain't bad at all, though, especially if he winds up performing as well as they seem to think he will.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

So I'm not sure who this guy is, but he might be worth a follow as he was the first one, by several hours, who broke the Andersen news and it's apparently the second trade the Leafs have made recently that he has had first, even before LeafsPR.

@incarceratedbob

 

[jonlleafs]

Unless they are confident they can move one or two guys before the draft this seems a little strange.

I think if they are ready to start giving up assets to get better in the short term then Stamkos becomes a bit more likely.

I dunno. I don't see it that way. Goaltending was an area they were going to need to address next summer at the latest. They had an opportunity to do so now at a price they didn't feel was too high, so they went for it. I don't think this move is really much of an indication of anything.

That's why opinions are like buttholes, we all have them, some of them stink and some of them are more palatable than others.

I dunno.  I think all buttholes stink. 

 

[mr grieves]

I don't love this move. I'm with Frank in that it seems a little early to be addressing the goal.

Unless they are confident they can move one or two guys before the draft this seems a little strange.

I think if they are ready to start giving up assets to get better in the short term then Stamkos becomes a bit more likely.

It's more the contract length that confuses me. Swapping picks for young talent who aligns well with core seems a reasonably smart way to try solving the goaltending problem... But to declare him the starter and give him that contract, on basis of under 150 games, seems weird. Like the sort of thing we'd crucify Dave Nonis for doing with Bernier.

He has the size and his last three seasons in a row have been solid. He is now a PROVEN starter, not a potential one.

There is a difference.

Look up 2 posts. He's averaged under 40 starts over the last 3 seasons. He's a proven half of a tandem, not a proven #1 starter.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Unless they are confident they can move one or two guys before the draft this seems a little strange.

I think if they are ready to start giving up assets to get better in the short term then Stamkos becomes a bit more likely.

I dunno. I don't see it that way. Goaltending was an area they were going to need to address next summer at the latest. They had an opportunity to do so now at a price they didn't feel was too high, so they went for it. I don't think this move is really much of an indication of anything.

That's why opinions are like buttholes, we all have them, some of them stink and some of them are more palatable than others.

I dunno.  I think all buttholes stink. 

Haha for sure.

 

[Joe S.]

I'm fine with the leafs trying to be competitive and rebuilding at the same time. It is entirely possible. I'm tired of these bs seasons.

Add a defenceman and maybe that UFA that shall not be named and baby you've got yourself a stew going

 

[jonlleafs]

I personally don't like this trade at this point in time.  The trade is ok.  Giving up another 1st and 2nd is a bit much and he's a decent goalie but not (yet) elite.  The trade assets exchanged are ok like I said but I think we didn't need him this year. 

I guess we better sign Stamkos now too if we're going to make a run.