Leafs @ sens - Feb. 6th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

[rdowdall]

If anyone's interested, I have another complaint about a commercial in heavy rotation during the game.

The Scotiabank one right?  Tell me it's the Scotiabank one.

Wow, mindreader! Damn right the Scotiabank one.

So the kid goes to see the scotia financial panther cause he needs to see his family, or something, and the panther says "I've moved some stuff around and saved you a bunch of cash" - and he's all happy? Wtf? Isn't the obvious question why the bananas that hadn't been suggested a long time ago?

That's exactly what bothered me.  WTF did I have to come in and talk to you about something that would take 20 seconds to do and save me 1500 bucks?

It'd be one thing if she said something like "we've moved some of your investments around to free up some cash" or something like that, but no - the direct statement is that we've come up with free money. It doesn't imply anything but complete incompetence.

I bet her computer wasn't even plugged in.  In fact she might not be a banker at all.
dun dun dun

 

[rdowdall]

Yeah, and that only matters if the Leafs get significantly better at C in the offseason.

No. I think they'll be looking to move him, regardless. Odds are, next season, they run with Kadri and Nylander as their top 2 centres, and Bozak provides better value as a trade chip than as a 3rd line centre.

Nylander is pretty far away from playing 2C in the NHL, you have to be pretty certain about that going into camp and it's not guaranteed by any stretch.

Well I think he has proven that he can handle the AHL.  For the most part, as long as he has addressed the parts of his game that the Leafs wanted him to work on and shown improvement there, then I think he will be on the Leafs next year.  If he's on the Leafs next year, he should be playing in the top 6.  If he's playing in the top 6, why not try him at centre, the position he has played all year in the AHL?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Man, there have been a whole bunch of guys who should be contributing a bit of offense who have pretty much disappeared over the past month or so.  Holland, Gardiner, Lupul of course.

Bozak was goalless in 15 games prior to NJ. Parenteau has 1 in 12. Komarov has 2 in 18.

 

[rdowdall]

Man, there have been a whole bunch of guys who should be contributing a bit of offense who have pretty much disappeared over the past month or so.  Holland, Gardiner, Lupul of course.

Bozak was goalless in 15 games prior to NJ. Parenteau has 1 in 12. Komarov has 2 in 18.

Maybe they want to stay.

 

[Tigger]

Yeah, and that only matters if the Leafs get significantly better at C in the offseason.

No. I think they'll be looking to move him, regardless. Odds are, next season, they run with Kadri and Nylander as their top 2 centres, and Bozak provides better value as a trade chip than as a 3rd line centre.

Nylander is pretty far away from playing 2C in the NHL, you have to be pretty certain about that going into camp and it's not guaranteed by any stretch.

Well I think he has proven that he can handle the AHL.  For the most part, as long as he has addressed the parts of his game that the Leafs wanted him to work on and shown improvement there, then I think he will be on the Leafs next year.  If he's on the Leafs next year, he should be playing in the top 6.  If he's playing in the top 6, why not try him at centre, the position he has played all year in the AHL?

Sure, he's proven himself in the A but that means little when it comes to the NHL. I think they'll shelter him, like they did with Kadri, unless something else happens at C. 3C seems way more likely barring major changes, to start the year at least.

 

[Al14]

NJ yes
I hate BOS more the OTT

If I lived in Boston, instead of Ottawa, I'd hate Boston more too, I guess!  I just can't stand all the grief I take from the Senaturd fans when their team beats us!

 

[ZBBM]

Man, there have been a whole bunch of guys who should be contributing a bit of offense who have pretty much disappeared over the past month or so.  Holland, Gardiner, Lupul of course.

Bozak was goalless in 15 games prior to NJ. Parenteau has 1 in 12. Komarov has 2 in 18.

True, but at least they look halfway dangerous most games.

I think Lupul is done.  Holland -- well, he seems awfully vanilla to me.  And I don't know what to think about Gardiner any more.

 

[Al14]

Please, can we at least break the SHUTOUT?

 

[McGarnagle]

I'm saving my beer calories for SB tomorrow, so I'm watching this debacle dry.

I feel like Homer at the baseball game.

 

[rdowdall]

Yeah, and that only matters if the Leafs get significantly better at C in the offseason.

No. I think they'll be looking to move him, regardless. Odds are, next season, they run with Kadri and Nylander as their top 2 centres, and Bozak provides better value as a trade chip than as a 3rd line centre.

Nylander is pretty far away from playing 2C in the NHL, you have to be pretty certain about that going into camp and it's not guaranteed by any stretch.

Well I think he has proven that he can handle the AHL.  For the most part, as long as he has addressed the parts of his game that the Leafs wanted him to work on and shown improvement there, then I think he will be on the Leafs next year.  If he's on the Leafs next year, he should be playing in the top 6.  If he's playing in the top 6, why not try him at centre, the position he has played all year in the AHL?

Sure, he's proven himself in the A but that means little when it comes to the NHL. I think they'll shelter him, like they did with Kadri, unless something else happens at C. 3C seems way more likely barring major changes, to start the year at least.

Well the plan to play him in the AHL for the whole year was a way of sheltering him.  I always got the impression that the Leafs played Kadri on the wing in the NHL in those early years because they were trying to send him a message, and not because he needed sheltering.  They wanted him to work on his defence and they didn't want to play him at centre until his defence got better.  I guess that is a way of sheltering him from his faults, but it seemed different.

All of the things I have heard about Nylander in the AHL this year is that he has acquitted himself fairly well in the defensive end.  I think starting him on the second line as the centre would provide him with some shelter.  They could start him in the offensive zone more often than not, and they could get him away from the top defenders.

The problem that could arise is that Kadri  may not outproduce Nylander.  If he doesn't then other teams may start drawing up a game plan to shut down Nylander.  At that point he  may effectively be the number 1 centre.

 

[McGarnagle]

If I was Winnipeg, I'd be moving Byfuglien and focussing on a better value deal with Ladd.

 

[bustaheims]

Nylander is pretty far away from playing 2C in the NHL, you have to be pretty certain about that going into camp and it's not guaranteed by any stretch.

I don't think he's far away, at all. In fact, he could probably come up now and do a pretty good job in that role.

 

[McGarnagle]

Nylander is pretty far away from playing 2C in the NHL, you have to be pretty certain about that going into camp and it's not guaranteed by any stretch.

I don't think he's far away, at all. In fact, he could probably come up now and do a pretty good job in that role.

I'd say its likely we may see a preview of that near the end of the season.

 

[ZBBM]

This television show is bloody awful.

 

[bustaheims]

I'd say its likely we may see a preview of that near the end of the season.

I'm not sure we will. With the success the Marlies are having, combined with Nylander only recently having returned from a concussion, I think he stays down there for the full year.

 

[Tigger]

Well the plan to play him in the AHL for the whole year was a way of sheltering him.  I always got the impression that the Leafs played Kadri on the wing in the NHL in those early years because they were trying to send him a message, and not because he needed sheltering.  They wanted him to work on his defence and they didn't want to play him at centre until his defence got better.  I guess that is a way of sheltering him from his faults, but it seemed different.

All of the things I have heard about Nylander in the AHL this year is that he has acquitted himself fairly well in the defensive end.  I think starting him on the second line as the centre would provide him with some shelter.  They could start him in the offensive zone more often than not, and they could get him away from the top defenders.

The problem that could arise is that Kadri  may not outproduce Nylander.  If he doesn't then other teams may start drawing up a game plan to shut down Nylander.  At that point he  may effectively be the number 1 centre.

I was talking about Kadri's year during the lockout, against inferior competition at centre.

Kadri not outproducing Nylander remains an unknown going into next season, so...

 

[Tigger]

Nylander is pretty far away from playing 2C in the NHL, you have to be pretty certain about that going into camp and it's not guaranteed by any stretch.

I don't think he's far away, at all. In fact, he could probably come up now and do a pretty good job in that role.

That's a pretty big jump to me.

 

[McGarnagle]

I'd say its likely we may see a preview of that near the end of the season.

I'm not sure we will. With the success the Marlies are having, combined with Nylander only recently having returned from a concussion, I think he stays down there for the full year.

You definitely could be right, but there was a radio interview on 1050 with Shanahan late last week where he was asked if there was a possibility of younger talent on the Marlies entering the lineup after the TD, and he replied he likes the idea of rewarding effort and giving the up and comers a taste- of course, he could be referring to any number of players on the Marlies, but it was a lot more forthcoming then I expected it to be.

 

[ZBBM]

Uh Jim, there's like exactly zero chance that this is "going to turn into a 6-5 game."

 

[Al14]

Uh Jim, there's like exactly zero chance that this is "going to turn into a 6-5 game."

It has to now if we're going to win!  ???

Now, we only need 7 for the win!