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Leafs @ Sharks - Mar. 11th, 10:30pm - SN, SN 590

At the same time playing Anaheim and SJ back to back is tough. SJ has been off since Saturday, and they manhandled the Canadiens.
 
bustaheims said:
Strangelove said:
The top line is really suspect in their own end. Sheesh.

The entire team is pretty suspect in their own end.

Ya I agree with you there but some guys will at least make a hit or fight to get control. Kessel is great at fly by's and JVR for a big kid doesn't use his body at all except on the offence. Big reason why we give up so many chances is they don't play tough enough without the puck. I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.
 
azzurri63 said:
I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.

I can't agree with you there. Some of the best players to ever play the game did not "crash and bang." Greatness does not come from playing a certain style.
 
There's not many teams that could go in to Anaheim and San Jose and beat both on back-to-back nights. It sounds like a lot of people here expected the Leafs to pull it off though?

Not to mention, the game's not over and Toronto has one of the most explosive offensives in the league. Reimer also usually gets better as the game progresses (last five minutes against Boston excluded.)
 
Bonsixx said:
There's not many teams that could go in to Anaheim and San Jose and beat both on back-to-back nights. It sounds like a lot of people here expected the Leafs to pull it off though?

Not to mention, the game's not over and Toronto has one of the most explosive offensives in the league. Reimer also usually gets better as the game progresses (last five minutes against Boston excluded.)

Yeah, 2-1 after that period is far from as bad as it could have been.  I would be thrilled if they could somehow extract a point out of this one.

And, far from declaring victory on the California swing already, if they went 1-2 in these 3 games it wouldn't be the end of the world.
 
Not that I'm a huge fan of Corsi, but . . .

mirtle: Corsi in first period was 31-8. I'll let you guess who had what.

San Jose is good and the Leafs are playing their 3rd game in 4 nights, but, they've got to be better than that.
 
bustaheims said:
azzurri63 said:
I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.

I can't agree with you there. Some of the best players to ever play the game did not "crash and bang." Greatness does not come from playing a certain style.

Well other than Gretzky name me one. Lemieux took the body, Crosby, Ovechkin take the body. Orr played hard. Sure you have some that were soft but to some extent they battled for the puck and hard. If you watch Kessel he never stops and rubs someone out to get the puck. He usually skates by the player and tries to free or knock the puck loose. Terrible.
 
bustaheims said:
azzurri63 said:
I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.

I can't agree with you there. Some of the best players to ever play the game did not "crash and bang." Greatness does not come from playing a certain style.

Seriously. Was there a less "crash and bang" player in the history of the NHL than Mario Lemieux?
 
azzurri63 said:
Well other than Gretzky name me one. Lemieux took the body, Crosby, Ovechkin take the body. Orr played hard. Sure you have some that were soft but to some extent they battled for the puck and hard. If you watch Kessel he never stops and rubs someone out to get the puck. He usually skates by the player and tries to free or knock the puck loose. Terrible.

Lidstrom wasn't particularly physical. Neither was Robitaille. Or Gartner. I don't recall Brett Hull being a guy who got particularly involved in the physical side of the game. It's not something Jagr does a lot of. Lafleur wasn't big on it either, neither was Ron Francis. Lemieux used his size to his advantage on offence, but absolutely did not do so defensively. Crosby is very much in that mould, as well.
 
They're not all on him obviously but Phaneuf has been on the ice for a pretty ridiculous percentage of the team's goals against the last week or so.
 
Nik the Trik said:
bustaheims said:
azzurri63 said:
I don't care how good you are or who you are great players still crash and bang that's what makes them great players.

I can't agree with you there. Some of the best players to ever play the game did not "crash and bang." Greatness does not come from playing a certain style.

Seriously. Was there a less "crash and bang" player in the history of the NHL than Mario Lemieux?

Phil Kessel?

And its fine. He doesn't get physical and he also stays in the lineup because he doesn't get hurt. Patty Kane ain't that physical either.

 
dappleganger said:
Phil Kessel?

I mean, Phil Kessel isn't physical or anything but he skates pretty hard on the backcheck, something Lemieux didn't do all that frequently.
 
Did that graphic seriously suggest that Orr has 68 penalty minutes this year that aren't from fighting majors? Because that's...not good.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Did that graphic seriously suggest that Orr has 68 penalty minutes this year that aren't from fighting majors? Because that's...not good.

66, but, to be fair to Orr, 50 of those are from misconduct penalties. He's only been called for 8 minor penalties - though, considering his ice time, that's still not good.
 

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