Mitch Marner: what now?

[Kin]

Been a long day...Act like what?

No no, What's the guy on Second Base. 

 

[Guilt Trip]

Been a long day...Act like what?

No no, What's the guy on Second Base. 

Haha.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1143297590764679168

 

[Guilt Trip]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1143297590764679168

Hahaha. This is getting entertaining now!

 

[bustaheims]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1143297590764679168

I?m not sure I completely buy into that, but, at the same time, i do think most GMs are hesitant to reopen the offer sheet box.

 

[Deebo]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1143297590764679168

I?m not sure I completely buy into that, but, at the same time, i do think most GMs are hesitant to reopen the offer sheet box.

I'm trying to think of something specific that the Leafs could do that would terrify anyone.

 

[TML fan]

Buy the Oilers and trade McDavid to themselves?

 

[bustaheims]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1143297590764679168

I?m not sure I completely buy into that, but, at the same time, i do think most GMs are hesitant to reopen the offer sheet box.

I'm trying to think of something specific that the Leafs could do that would terrify anyone.

They could offer sheet Rantanen, and come away without an real talent loss, but 4 upgraded draft picks.

 

[TML fan]

They can't offer sheet Rantanen can they? Don't they need to have all of their own picks?

 

[bustaheims]

They can't offer sheet Rantanen can they? Don't they need to have all of their own picks?

When there?s multiple picks in the same round involved, teams get an extra year to complete the requirements. They could still make it work.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/KPapetti/status/1143304606384046082

 

[Deebo]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1143297590764679168

I?m not sure I completely buy into that, but, at the same time, i do think most GMs are hesitant to reopen the offer sheet box.

I'm trying to think of something specific that the Leafs could do that would terrify anyone.

They could offer sheet Rantanen, and come away without an real talent loss, but 4 upgraded draft picks.

If the Leafs were willing to sign Rantanen to an offer sheet big enough that the Avs wouldn't match, they'd probably just match whatever this hypothetical offersheet it is that Marner had signed rather than risk the Avs matching.

 

[Frank E]

Friedman is going full Dreger with a statement like that.

I'm still on the fence on if I'd rather have $10m in cap space and 4 first round picks (as currency) vs. having Marner, given the current makeup of the the Leafs.

Honestly, should I not be?

 

[Chris]

Friedman is going full Dreger with a statement like that.

I'm still on the fence on if I'd rather have $10m in cap space and 4 first round picks (as currency) vs. having Marner, given the current makeup of the the Leafs.

Honestly, should I not be?

I go back and forth on this topic. You could potentially do a lot to improve the team with 10$million+ in cap space and 4 additional first round picks. Even if we sign Marner to a "reasonable" contract, the defense is still scary.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Friedman is going full Dreger with a statement like that.

I'm still on the fence on if I'd rather have $10m in cap space and 4 first round picks (as currency) vs. having Marner, given the current makeup of the the Leafs.

Honestly, should I not be?

It's a fair way to think. 10 mill should buy you a number 1 d man and 4 1st can help refill the cupboards and use for trade bait. The dynamics up front does change a lot though without him. I think the Leafs end up being fine either way.

 

[Kin]

I think people may be so caught up in recency bias because of the Tavares signing that they're misrepresenting what cap space actually means. How often are legit #1 defensemen available on the free agent market? Even if they are, what's the guarantee you can sign one even if you offer the most money(which 10 million may or may not be)? Will it be next year? The year after that? Will they get one before Tavares hits 30?

If you want to turn Marner into a defenseman, sign him and take another shot at it with this group. If you think you're too thin on the back end, try and trade him where you can actually control the return you get back instead of hoping that Vancouver's 2023 first round pick is a valuable trade chip.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/KPapetti/status/1143304606384046082

Words are wind.

 

[Zee]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1143297590764679168

Dubas doesn't strike me as a hothead who would turn around and offer sheet another team cause he got offer sheeted. It would have to make sense to do it. What is this a double U-turn on amazing race?

 

[herman]

He doesn?t have to offer sheet anyone. He could out pay you on your best scouts.

Dubas can do the cold-blooded thing too. There?s a reason Andreas Johnsson and Kasperi Kapanen jumped to sign deals immediately after Dubas said he isn?t going to blindly match offersheets.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I think people may be so caught up in recency bias because of the Tavares signing that they're misrepresenting what cap space actually means. How often are legit #1 defensemen available on the free agent market? Even if they are, what's the guarantee you can sign one even if you offer the most money(which 10 million may or may not be)? Will it be next year? The year after that? Will they get one before Tavares hits 30?

If you want to turn Marner into a defenseman, sign him and take another shot at it with this group. If you think you're too thin on the back end, try and trade him where you can actually control the return you get back instead of hoping that Vancouver's 2023 first round pick is a valuable trade chip.

Wasn't necessarily referring to the UFA market. Was thinking more trade market. With 10 mil in cap space and the 4 1sts, the Leafs could easily put a deal together to get a top D man. They probably would have had Subban right now if that was the case.