NHL Draft Lottery
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Wendel's Fist
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Potvin29 said:
Yeah, and Edmonton won the cup in '85 with Gretzky, Messier and a few other no names. Plus a few more after. I don't know of a team that's had a bigger horseshoe up its ass.
I'm beyond pissed off.
mr grieves
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Significantly Insignificant said:
Word is the Devils want some scoring help, might part with their 1st. Wouldn't be terrible if Leafs could somehow leave the draft with RNH/Draisaitl (for Phaneuf) and 3 first round picks, 2 in the top ten.
Wendel's Fist
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I think Lindros should call McDavid on behalf of the Maple Leafs to let him know exactly what it takes to make it in the NHL.
Heroic Shrimp
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I guess my consolation tonight is that I could have been more upset with the result...
Kin
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Deebo said:
Not just that but they're something that has arose from market conditions. A team can choose not to offer them but they'd be at a disadvantage when it comes to signing/retaining players.
So they're actually smart and from my perspective as a fan, I don't want the team I cheer for handcuffing themselves the way Burke did with not being interested in backdiving deals.
louisstamos
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Frank E said:
They're in a similar position to the Leafs that they need a bit of everything, everywhere...
It comes down to if they want to draft BPA or to fill positional needs...
Heroic Shrimp
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louisstamos said:
I recommend they pick the best available American.
ZBBM
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There's really nothing to be terribly upset about. This is the best possible outcome other than us winning it.
1. It opens all manner of trade possibilities with EDM. I don't doubt for a second that Phaneuf and/or Kessel would waive NTCs with them. If there's any hesitation, Shanahan just gives it to them straight, they're no longer in the plans. And the chance to play with McDavid? Who wouldn't be tempted?
This is highly unlikely, but it's even imaginable that there's a blockbuster that sends both Phaneuf and Kessel for some appropriate package. McDavid gets a top scorer to play with and the EDM back end gets a veteran as anchor. Maybe that's too much, but I'd be surprised if at least one of them were not floated to EDM brass.
2. This is much less likely, but tonight's results opens the door to at least thinking about offering a trade-up to BUF for Eichel.
3. Worst case, we are getting either Hanifin or Strome. I'll take that.
1. It opens all manner of trade possibilities with EDM. I don't doubt for a second that Phaneuf and/or Kessel would waive NTCs with them. If there's any hesitation, Shanahan just gives it to them straight, they're no longer in the plans. And the chance to play with McDavid? Who wouldn't be tempted?
This is highly unlikely, but it's even imaginable that there's a blockbuster that sends both Phaneuf and Kessel for some appropriate package. McDavid gets a top scorer to play with and the EDM back end gets a veteran as anchor. Maybe that's too much, but I'd be surprised if at least one of them were not floated to EDM brass.
2. This is much less likely, but tonight's results opens the door to at least thinking about offering a trade-up to BUF for Eichel.
3. Worst case, we are getting either Hanifin or Strome. I'll take that.
Kin
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I think there are a couple things wrong with your premise here. To start:
1. The best possible scenario for the Leafs, outside of winning it themselves, was probably if Arizona or Buffalo had won it. Most people think this reduces the Leafs chances at Strome, who it seems to be the preferred pick at #4 if possible.
2. I don't think Phaneuf or Kessel, if they turn down a trade to Edmonton, would be particularly shocked to hear that they're not in the plans going forward. I think that's sort of goes hand in hand with the initial request to trade them. People don't want to live in Edmonton. That tends to trump a lot of things.
3. Buffalo almost certainly won't trade the Eichel pick or, at the very least, the cost will be prohibitively expensive. It's pretty clear from the way they were built that they were desperate to get one of these two picks.
4. Because there is a draw to playing with McDavid, Edmonton might very well feel as though they're able to be players in the UFA market, making a trade less likely.
ZBBM
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Nik the Trik said:
Well, your first point depends on whether you want Strome more than Hanifin. I am indifferent on that, we could use either one, very well.
Phaneuf is from Edmonton, is he not? As for Kessel, point taken but again the attraction of McDavid is strong (and that gets at your 4th point)>
I did say trading up for Eichel is not likely. (I didn't say it would be a good thing for us to do.) But it is a
possibility.
Stronger Than All
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Some on twitter saying Leafs could end up with Marner? Did I miss something?
Kin
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Not entirely. I agree that one of those two is the likely pick but it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world for the Leafs brass to want to draft a forward regardless and, with Strome off the board, lean towards Marner. So if you'd be equally happy with either Hanifin or Strome I agree that the opportunity to pick one will be the same regardless but I think it's slightly more likely to actually happen if Hanifin is already off the board.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
What I'm responding to though is this idea that if they turn down a trade to Edmonton that they'll somehow be convinced. It's not like Phaneuf will need to be reminded of where he's from. If he has Edmonton on his list, it's there for a reason.
And I really can't see a reason for Edmonton to trade for Kessel with Hall and Eberle already there.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Ok, but it's not a possibility that is in any way enhanced by the outcome of the lottery. Buffalo seems like the least likely team to trade out of the top two. So it was a possibility regardless.
Sudafederov
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Nik the Trik said:
Too funny.
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