Nonis using depth to go shopping....

[Zee]

Hurm....

It's funny that in the opening post, I cited an article from LeBrun that has Bozak and or Gunnarsson leaving in trade. These two are now rumoured as a price for you know who. Nonis using depth to go shopping?

I know Gunnar isn't an all-star or anything, but he's the most reliable defensive d-man we have.  :-/

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I know Gunnar isn't an all-star or anything, but he's the most reliable defensive d-man we have.  :-/

Funny that other teams would want that, huh? 

 

[Tigger]

Hurm....

It's funny that in the opening post, I cited an article from LeBrun that has Bozak and or Gunnarsson leaving in trade. These two are now rumoured as a price for you know who. Nonis using depth to go shopping?

I hope he is but not for that, or at the very least not like that. It's just so the wrong move for a losing team trying to rebuild.

The only upside I see, aside from some quality starting goaltending for a couple years, is that it might quell misgivings for valuable free agents inclined to consider the Leafs.

The downside is pretty grim.

 

[Zee]

I know Gunnar isn't an all-star or anything, but he's the most reliable defensive d-man we have.  :-/

Funny that other teams would want that, huh? 

Man I hope this doesn't happen.  I'd rather just sink or swim this year with Reimer/Scrivens for 48 games, if it's a total disaster you can explore more desperate measures in the summer.

 

[Bender]

I know Gunnar isn't an all-star or anything, but he's the most reliable defensive d-man we have.  :-/

Funny that other teams would want that, huh? 

Man I hope this doesn't happen.  I'd rather just sink or swim this year with Reimer/Scrivens for 48 games, if it's a total disaster you can explore more desperate measures in the summer.

Yeah, I mean they already fired who they needed to fire. They wouldn't fire more in the same year!

):-X

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I hope he is but not for that, or at the very least not like that. It's just so the wrong move for a losing team trying to rebuild.

The only upside I see, aside from some quality starting goaltending for a couple years, is that it might quell misgivings for valuable free agents inclined to consider the Leafs.

The downside is pretty grim.

I agree with your points. I don't want that deal either, but I fear it may happen.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I know Gunnar isn't an all-star or anything, but he's the most reliable defensive d-man we have.  :-/

Funny that other teams would want that, huh? 

Man I hope this doesn't happen.  I'd rather just sink or swim this year with Reimer/Scrivens for 48 games, if it's a total disaster you can explore more desperate measures in the summer.

I hear you, but if Reimer/Scrivens fall short and Luongo is gone by the off-season.

Who is available that is of the same caliber and what are the costs involved?

It's a really tough situation where we almost have to pick him up if we can.

 

[armche123]

Shouldn't we change this thread name to Nonis instead of Burkie...?

 

[maplesyrup]

Shouldn't we change this thread name to Nonis instead of Burkie...?

Or shut, 'er down altogether.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Shouldn't we change this thread name to Nonis instead of Burkie...?

Sorry I wasn't quick enough on that...

 

[Redleaf]

I know Gunnar isn't an all-star or anything, but he's the most reliable defensive d-man we have.  :-/

Funny that other teams would want that, huh? 

Man I hope this doesn't happen.  I'd rather just sink or swim this year with Reimer/Scrivens for 48 games, if it's a total disaster you can explore more desperate measures in the summer.

Maybe we should forget about shopping. How many 1st rounders can we expect to have for the next draft if Nonis dismantles this team?  Deep draft..... 8)

 

[iwas11in67]

Shouldn't we change this thread name to Nonis instead of Burkie...?

Sorry I wasn't quick enough on that...

Its the proverbial fork in the road with the Leafs. Either you trade for Luongo and start making a serious run for the playoffs now. Or you dont trade for him and build with the draft. it'll be very interesting to see the route Nonis et al take.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Its the proverbial fork in the road with the Leafs. Either you trade for Luongo and start making a serious run for the playoffs now. Or you dont trade for him and build with the draft. it'll be very interesting to see the route Nonis et al take.

Is it that black and white though?

 

[Zee]

Shouldn't we change this thread name to Nonis instead of Burkie...?

Sorry I wasn't quick enough on that...

Its the proverbial fork in the road with the Leafs. Either you trade for Luongo and start making a serious run for the playoffs now. Or you dont trade for him and build with the draft. it'll be very interesting to see the route Nonis et al take.

There's no guarantee that the Leafs can't make the playoffs with Reimer/Scrivens.  Reimer put together a really good half season 2 years ago.  In a 48 game schedule if either himself or Scrivens gets hot, the Leafs could surprise.  By the same token there's no guarantee that getting Luongo will mean the Leafs make a serious push for the playoffs.  He could get here and just be terrible. I know the odds are likely that they'll have a better shot WITH Luongo, but there are no guarantees either way.

 

[Redleaf]

Its the proverbial fork in the road with the Leafs. Either you trade for Luongo and start making a serious run for the playoffs now. Or you dont trade for him and build with the draft. it'll be very interesting to see the route Nonis et al take.

Is it that black and white though?

I think it is. If they get Luongo they'll certainly go out and try to get guys like Perry and Getzlaf before Roberto's window starts to close. I agree we're at the crossroads once again with a new GM in place. Although for public consumption, (and perhaps because of a certain GM's trade demands) Nonis is saying the right things.

 

[Zee]

Its the proverbial fork in the road with the Leafs. Either you trade for Luongo and start making a serious run for the playoffs now. Or you dont trade for him and build with the draft. it'll be very interesting to see the route Nonis et al take.

Is it that black and white though?

I think it is. If they get Luongo they'll certainly go out and try to get guys like Perry and Getzlaf before Roberto's window starts to close. I agree we're at the crossroads once again with a new GM in place. Although for public consumption, (and perhaps because of a certain GM's trade demands) Nonis is saying the right things.

So you're saying get Luongo now and HOPE that those guys get to free agency?  That's a huge gamble to take.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Its the proverbial fork in the road with the Leafs. Either you trade for Luongo and start making a serious run for the playoffs now. Or you dont trade for him and build with the draft. it'll be very interesting to see the route Nonis et al take.

Is it that black and white though?

I think it is. If they get Luongo they'll certainly go out and try to get guys like Perry and Getzlaf before Roberto's window starts to close. I agree we're at the crossroads once again with a new GM in place. Although for public consumption, (and perhaps because of a certain GM's trade demands) Nonis is saying the right things.

I don't think it's black and white though. If you don't get Luongo, you don't have to build strictly through the draft. You can just have another target(s).

As Zee says above, it's also entirely possible that Luongo sucks too, then you're really in a pickle, as you are stuck with him and his putrid contract. If you do manage to trade him, you aren't getting near what you paid for him.

I think the risk is too high, for me anyway. I still believe Reims and Scrivens will be good.

 

[Redleaf]

Its the proverbial fork in the road with the Leafs. Either you trade for Luongo and start making a serious run for the playoffs now. Or you dont trade for him and build with the draft. it'll be very interesting to see the route Nonis et al take.

Is it that black and white though?

I think it is. If they get Luongo they'll certainly go out and try to get guys like Perry and Getzlaf before Roberto's window starts to close. I agree we're at the crossroads once again with a new GM in place. Although for public consumption, (and perhaps because of a certain GM's trade demands) Nonis is saying the right things.

So you're saying get Luongo now and HOPE that those guys get to free agency?  That's a huge gamble to take.

Well. If not one of the Anaheim players, then someone else. My point was Luongo changes the game plan. They don't trade away futures to get him and not build a strong supporting cast around him before his abilities start to diminish. At least I wouldn't think so.

 

[Tigger]

I hope he is but not for that, or at the very least not like that. It's just so the wrong move for a losing team trying to rebuild.

The only upside I see, aside from some quality starting goaltending for a couple years, is that it might quell misgivings for valuable free agents inclined to consider the Leafs.

The downside is pretty grim.

I agree with your points. I don't want that deal either, but I fear it may happen.

It might, and I know I'm opening up some joke material but I don't want to give up practically anything to get him. If the Leafs somehow address their needs over the next couple years, which is far from a sure thing, that leaves a very small window for Luongo to really matter.

 

[moon111]

I can handle a rebuild, but getting an old goalie that has a reputation for not handling pressure to play in the fishbowl?  And stuck with his contract?  I hope Nonis only considers this if the price is right.  Leafs depth isn't that great.