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Nonis using depth to go shopping....

BlueWhiteBlood said:
KW Sluggo said:
Re: Burke using depth to go shopping....

Just when might this shopping expedition take place?

It's overdue, but if he makes a deal tomorrow, it could be right on schedule.

I don't think Burke is going to be able to make a deal.  I don't think he has the appetite for it.  Rumours have Luongo going back to Florida now, that they just need some time to make the money work.  Staal is in Carolina.  Nash isn't coming to T.O. as all the talk is about him going to the Flyers or the Rangers.  Ryan would be a mistake because of who the current coach is with the Leafs.  I don't see who they could possible get out there that helps address their needs.  They are hamstrung by some of their contracts (Armstrong, Connolly, Lombardi, Komisarek), and the fact that most teams do not want the Leafs spare parts.

Face it folks, as much as there has been a lot of talk, this is shaping up to be an uneventful off season.
 
If you're right, it might mean another top 5 pick. That combined with what is expected to be one of the best free agency classed next summer might not be all that bad either... I just don't know if I could stomach another year of crapola. 
 
SGT said:
If you're right, it might mean another top 5 pick. That combined with what is expected to be one of the best free agency classed next summer might not be all that bad either... I just don't know if I could stomach another year of crapola.

I think the thing that keeps sticking with me is that it has been SEVEN years.  It just baffles my mind that in that time, they couldn't right the ship, that they couldn't have some measure of progression.  The people who point to Burkes record and compare it to JFJ's record and say "You know this isn't all that much better" are right.  There are no elite prospects in the system, and it looks like the only way for the Leafs to acquire that talent that they need is through the draft, which means that they have to continue to be bad, and hope that they draft correctly.  If you look at yesterday, there is some concern that they can't do that.
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
I think the thing that keeps sticking with me is that it has been SEVEN years.  It just baffles my mind that in that time, they couldn't right the ship, that they couldn't have some measure of progression.  The people who point to Burkes record and compare it to JFJ's record and say "You know this isn't all that much better" are right.  There are no elite prospects in the system, and it looks like the only way for the Leafs to acquire that talent that they need is through the draft, which means that they have to continue to be bad, and hope that they draft correctly.  If you look at yesterday, there is some concern that they can't do that.

I'm a little more up on the future than you are. By most accounts, we  have some good prospects and the Marlies run in indicative of that. I really don't have much issue with what Burke did yesterday to be honest. Really, if there wasn't a forward who could step in and help the top 6 tomorrow, why not just draft the BPA? This Reilly kid could be just that.
 
SGT said:
Significantly Insignificant said:
I think the thing that keeps sticking with me is that it has been SEVEN years.  It just baffles my mind that in that time, they couldn't right the ship, that they couldn't have some measure of progression.  The people who point to Burkes record and compare it to JFJ's record and say "You know this isn't all that much better" are right.  There are no elite prospects in the system, and it looks like the only way for the Leafs to acquire that talent that they need is through the draft, which means that they have to continue to be bad, and hope that they draft correctly.  If you look at yesterday, there is some concern that they can't do that.

I'm a little more up on the future than you are. By most accounts, we  have some good prospects and the Marlies run in indicative of that. I really don't have much issue with what Burke did yesterday to be honest. Really, if there wasn't a forward who could step in and help the top 6 tomorrow, why not just draft the BPA? This Reilly kid could be just that.

The problem I have is that we have "good" prospects, not "great" ones.  There isn't a prospect in the system that could be considered a game changer.  There also isn't player on the Leafs, in there system or on the big club that could be considered a "franchise" player.  As I said, it's been seven years.  You would think there would be at least one franchise player in the organization.  You would think there would be at least one player to build around. 
 
The lockout ( the overall changes to the game ) and JFJ crippled this team, 7 years is a long time but, y'know, 'Long is the way' and all....

Anywho, once draft shopping is over, June 25 could be a good day to shop, shop, shop.
 
Tigger said:
The lockout ( the overall changes to the game ) and JFJ crippled this team, 7 years is a long time but, y'know, 'Long is the way' and all....

Anywho, once draft shopping is over, June 25 could be a good day to shop, shop, shop.

Of we could wait until July 1st like everybody else.  ;D
 
I like the original quote: "The Leafs' newfound depth, especially on defense, has the club working the phones to see if there's any interest in some of their players. Defenseman Carl Gunnarsson and center Tyler Bozak are among the names that have been discussed, but as of Wednesday, we're told nothing was close with any team. The Leafs could also start the season with eight defensemen on their roster."

...has led some people to be upset that Burke hasn't been wheeling and dealing like a madman.
 
KW Sluggo said:
princedpw said:
KW Sluggo said:
Still waiting for this shopping spree to start,

its over, we bought JVR.

hardly qualifies as a spree

Why would you expect a spree?  Look at the post directly above you that was the basis of this entire thread.

Why would you take the idea that Burke is trying to see what interest is out there as meaning there is going to be a 'spree' and that you should be disappointed when a bunch of deals aren't made?

Unless there's some quote I'm not seeing somewhere.
 
Rebel_1812 said:
He could be in on the trade for Ryan.  I hope he is as I don't think Nash is that much better then Bobby Ryan.

Id be surprised if the Leafs landed Ryan. Delighted, but surprised.
 
Rebel_1812 said:
He could be in on the trade for Ryan.  I hope he is as I don't think Nash is that much better then Bobby Ryan.

I personally think Ryan is better than Nash, but that's just me.

That being said, Ryan isn't going anywhere. I personally think it's media twisting and turning to make a story.
 
I doubt we have the assets to get Ryan without gutting our future.

Oh and don't doubt the fact that he is available, the comments he made, direct quotes, means they can't bring him back. In terms of being an off ice issue, his situation in Anaheim is much worse than Luongo's in Vancouver or Nash in Columbus.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
I doubt we have the assets to get Ryan without gutting our future.

Oh and don't doubt the fact that he is available, the comments he made, direct quotes, means they can't bring him back. In terms of being an off ice issue, his situation in Anaheim is much worse than Luongo's in Vancouver or Nash in Columbus.

New York got Nash without gutting their future.  MacArthur, Bozak and even Kulemin could be sent the other way and not significantly harm the team.  I think a deal can be made if Burke was aggressive about it like the Phanuef deal.
 
Rebel_1812 said:
New York got Nash without gutting their future.  MacArthur, Bozak and even Kulemin could be sent the other way and not significantly harm the team.  I think a deal can be made if Burke was aggressive about it like the Phanuef deal.

You honestly think Anaheim would trade Ryan for a few borderline 2nd liners?

Better yet, you honestly think someone would not better that offer?
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
I doubt we have the assets to get Ryan without gutting our future.

Oh and don't doubt the fact that he is available, the comments he made, direct quotes, means they can't bring him back. In terms of being an off ice issue, his situation in Anaheim is much worse than Luongo's in Vancouver or Nash in Columbus.

How is his situation worse than Luongo's? Has Anaheim signed a younger sniper that will displace him, therefore making him unnecessary on the team?

Now, he may be available(as is 95% of the league) but not for cheap.
 

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