Nylander signs 6-year contract

[Andy007]

Funny enough, I thought Burke made some pretty great trades. JVR, Gardiner/Lupul, Phaneuf were all steals. He just absolutely sucked at signing/giving out contracts. And Tyler Biggs!

 

[Joe S.]

I?m as happy as anyone here that this story is over now. I?m just trying to be realistic with my expectations for Nylander?s performance this year. Typically when a player misses camp they come back all out of sync and take a while to get going. We?re not just talking camp here - it?s been 3 months.

Obviously the team is better with him - I just have a feeling it?s not going to be a smooth transition.

 

[Zee]

Funny enough, I thought Burke made some pretty great trades. JVR, Gardiner/Lupul, Phaneuf were all steals. He just absolutely sucked at signing/giving out contracts. And Tyler Biggs!

Forgot about JVR, that was a steal for sure.

 

[Kin]

Funny enough, I thought Burke made some pretty great trades. JVR, Gardiner/Lupul, Phaneuf were all steals. He just absolutely sucked at signing/giving out contracts. And Tyler Biggs!

Eh, I don't want to open up this can of worms again but I think history has proven me right about the Phaneuf trade. It was a pretty fair price, probably the equivalent of the Leafs paying a 1st and two 2nds.

Re: Burke I think he was a bright executive and I think that unlike Lamoriello a lot of his rules came out of trying to be a decent guy. I just think the problem with him, as with all of the GMs who came before him and the one after him, was he was overly confident in his ability to do the ridiculous thing the team wanted him to do. I think that if his mandate had been rebuilding, he probably would have done ok as we saw with the higher draft picks he had to work with.

 

[Bullfrog]

I'm curious why the signing bonus in the first year isn't included as part of the salary. If it was, then the cap hit in subsequent years would be even lower.

Then Nylander would take less home, because the amount added to the salary from the bonus would be pro rated rather than being paid in full. The cap hit only goes down if he is receiveing less money.

The yearly cap hit is still equal to the total amount being paid divided by the years being played.

Thanks. Once you point it out, it's plainly obvious. lol

 

[herman]

A win-win deal pulled out of a lose-lose situation.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

A win-win deal pulled out of a lose-lose situation.

Agreed. Ideally, he matches Marner's point total for the balance of the year, and helps add comparables to pull his price down a bit. I can't see it less than 9M currently.

And if there's any lingering resentment at any point, hit cap hit should be very moveable for assets regardless.

 

[Redleaf]

Who's starting up the trade Nylander thread? 8)

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Who's starting up the trade Nylander thread? 8)

Friedman!  ;D

 

[Redleaf]

Who's starting up the trade Nylander thread? 8)

Friedman!  ;D

In all seriousness, I don?t think it will happen this year, with his cap hit at 10.2M , but over the summer, I?d be surprised if it didn?t happen.

 

[Bullfrog]

I'd be very surprised if he gets traded. He's an integral part of the team.

 

[Andy007]

I'd be very surprised if he gets traded. He's an integral part of the team.

I agree. Unless things go terribly awry with the Matthews/Marner extensions, I don't see Willie going anywhere.

 

[Kin]

I'd be very surprised if he gets traded. He's an integral part of the team.

I agree. It seems crazy to me that you'd invest this much in a guy with this much promise and not even give him a full year to see what he can do.

 

[TML fan]

They're not trading Nylander.

 

[Zee]

They're not trading Nylander.

Right now I agree but never say never. We'll see how the season and playoffs go. Right now Nylander is part of the long term future but plans can change based on what's happening on the ice

 

[Frank E]

I think we should revisit the subject after the season.  I can't imagine he's going anywhere this season.

 

[Kin]

They're not trading Nylander.

Right now I agree but never say never. We'll see how the season and playoffs go. Right now Nylander is part of the long term future but plans can change based on what's happening on the ice

You could literally say that about anyone in the league.

 

[Zee]

They're not trading Nylander.

Right now I agree but never say never. We'll see how the season and playoffs go. Right now Nylander is part of the long term future but plans can change based on what's happening on the ice

You could literally say that about anyone in the league.

Sure in theory but the true elite level talent it's way less likely. McDavid, Matthews and the like. I don't think Nylander is in that category.

 

[sickbeast]

Don Cherry panned the deal but I kind of feel like we paid fair market value for him; perhaps a bit more.  But really this could be the icing on the cake for our cup run.  What would Cherry have done?  Let him sit?  Trade him for less valuable assets?  Both bad moves IMO.  I agree with a lot of what he says but sometimes he fails to see the bigger picture or other options and scenarios.

I will say that he was 100% completely right about Zaitsev, however.  So we'll see.

 

[Kin]

The thread is locked so I can't quote myself directly but this is me on September 12th:

Mackinnon signed his extension after two seasons where he scored 38 and then 52 points. He signed for 6.3 million which represented 8.63% of the cap. A comparable cap hit for Nylander, coming off two straight 60+ point seasons, would work out to roughly 6.9 million which would be a nice deal for Nylander

Now, sure, some might say that the rest of that post doesn't indicate this is a prediction but just a stupid joke but I'm still going to declare a sort of victory.