Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs

[bustaheims]

hypothetically...if Phaneuf was out for the season with his injury wouldn't that clear enough cap space for Richards ?

For this season, sure, but not for the 5 other seasons Richards has remaining on his contract. The term is the biggest reason LA hasn't been able to move him. If his contract was expiring, someone who likely have been willing to take a chance on him.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Looking at it mostly in terms of salary (and needs), does Phaneuf for ROR work?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Looking at it mostly in terms of salary (and needs), does Phaneuf for ROR work?

Colorado would probably be looking for a left-handed defenceman with term who can play on the top pairing with Erik Johnson. Phaneuf definitely meets those first 2 criteria, but obviously people are pretty divided about whether or not he can or should be doing the 3rd.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Looking at it mostly in terms of salary (and needs), does Phaneuf for ROR work?

Colorado would probably be looking for a left-handed defenceman with term who can play on the top pairing with Erik Johnson. Phaneuf definitely meets those first 2 criteria, but obviously people are pretty divided about whether or not he can or should be doing the 3rd.

Would probably be his best partner in awhile.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Would probably be his best partner in awhile.

You could say that about both defencemen. Johnson has played with Hejda, Matt Hunwick and Shane O'Brien in Colorado. I think he's very underrated. He's really developed into a legit #1 the last couple of seasons.

 

[Bullfrog]

Looking at it mostly in terms of salary (and needs), does Phaneuf for ROR work?

Colorado would probably be looking for a left-handed defenceman with term who can play on the top pairing with Erik Johnson. Phaneuf definitely meets those first 2 criteria, but obviously people are pretty divided about whether or not he can or should be doing the 3rd.

I would say absolutely yes. In fact, that's probably the perfect position for him to be in and I could really see him flourish there. That would be a formidable pairing.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Looking at it mostly in terms of salary (and needs), does Phaneuf for ROR work?

Colorado would probably be looking for a left-handed defenceman with term who can play on the top pairing with Erik Johnson. Phaneuf definitely meets those first 2 criteria, but obviously people are pretty divided about whether or not he can or should be doing the 3rd.

I would say absolutely yes. In fact, that's probably the perfect position for him to be in and I could really see him flourish there. That would be a formidable pairing.

It may be a trade that would work very well for both teams, which makes me hopeful!  :-\

 

[Britishbulldog]

So....
Franson to Anaheim for Ritchie.

Phaneuf to Colorado for O'Reilly

Reimer to Columbus, Dallas or NYI for a 2nd pick.

If Robidas can get healthy he should be an ideal 2nd pairing RH dman and Polak is an ideal 3rd pairing Dman. 

Bogosian would be a decent 1st pairing RH dman.  I don't know if WPG could use any combination of Bozak, Lupul, Clarkson (with retained salary), Gardiner or ??.

 

[Joe S.]

I don't know how you figure Reimer can get a second round pick. His numbers over the last 2 seasons do not look good...

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I don't know how you figure Reimer can get a second round pick. His numbers over the last 2 seasons do not look good...

Basically .910 SV% over last 2 seasons.  28th out of 41 goalies over past 2 seasons who have made at least 30 starts.

 

[bustaheims]

I don't know how you figure Reimer can get a second round pick. His numbers over the last 2 seasons do not look good...

Goalie values can be hard to pin down, though. Reto Berra went for a 2nd round pick at the deadline last year - he was around the same age Reimer is now, with worse numbers and less experience. All it really takes is a couple teams seeing something in Reimer that they like - especially if they're looking at him as a starter rather than a backup. His numbers when he's been the guy starting the majority of his team's games are very good. It's a smaller sample size, but, it could be enough to entice a team to part with a 2nd rounder (which seem to get moved more than picks in any other round).

 

[L K]

I know Scrivens had better numbers when LA traded him but he went for a 3rd round pick...so I don't think it is entirely unreasonable that Reimer's value is somewhere around a 2nd or 3rd round pick.  He's on a reasonable contract.  I think the big question is whether he provides more value to a team that is a borderline playoff team looking for a 1A/1B role, or if a team looking for goaltending depth is where he has more value...the thing about Reimer is he isn't a deadline rental.  You get another year of him at 2M salary and 2.3M salary.

It may not be an entirely popular opinion but I would really look at considering a trade of Bernier too.  I'm just not seeing #1 who carriers you to a cup out of him.  I think he's going to wind up being expensive on his next contract and I'm not sure if there is a point in overspending on goaltending if the team is going through a rebuild.

 

[Britishbulldog]

So realizing that anyone can be traded is the Leafs real trade bait (from 1st line down to goaltending) is:
Bozak
Santorelli
Winnik
Phaneuf
Franson
Holzer
Reimer

with long shots:
Lupul
Clarkson (with salary retention)

??

 

[Kin]

I'm guessing they'll actively shop the expiring guys and listen to offers on everyone else.

 

[Highlander]

That would be my list as well BBB but may want to keep Santorelli (as he has pretty much been our best player game in and game out). Also like Franson if Phaneuf can be moved.

 

[freer]

So realizing that anyone can be traded is the Leafs real trade bait (from 1st line down to goaltending) is:
Bozak
Santorelli
Winnik
Phaneuf
Franson
Holzer
Reimer

with long shots:
Lupul
Clarkson (with salary retention)

??

Well LA was interested in Lupul, Who you trade Lup's for Richards?

 

[Bullfrog]

I doubt they'd trade one of their best offensive players for an AHLer with five more years of $5.75 million.

 

[bustaheims]

I doubt they'd trade one of their best offensive players for an AHLer with five more years of $5.75 million.

Yeah, that sort of defeats the purpose of trading Lupul. Taking on more cap and more term for a less productive player? No thanks.

 

[freer]

I doubt they'd trade one of their best offensive players for an AHLer with five more years of $5.75 million.

Richards is far from an AHLer' The only reason he is there is because of the cap.

 

[bustaheims]

I doubt they'd trade one of their best offensive players for an AHLer with five more years of $5.75 million.

Richards is far from an AHLer' The only reason he is there is because of the cap.

It's actually because he can't skate well enough to play at the NHL level. They actually didn't save any cap space with the move. They called up a player who carries a cap hit exactly equal to what they save by having Richards in the AHL. He's not that far from an AHLer anymore. He's broken.