Patrick Kane - Possible rape charge

[Kin]

I said I was wrong.  What more would you like?

Well, I guess it'd be nice if you had responded to what I said instead of sarcastically conceded a point I hadn't made.

 

[rdowdall]

I said I was wrong.  What more would you like?

Well, I guess it'd be nice if you had responded to what I said instead of sarcastically conceded a point I hadn't made.

I was wrong.  It served no purpose for the accuser to mess with evidence.  In no way shape or form would it serve a purpose for them to do so.

 

[Kin]

I was wrong.  It served no purpose for the accuser to mess with evidence.  In no way shape or form would it serve a purpose for them to do so.

Great. Now, if there are no further objections, I'm going to go watch Law and Order.

 

[gilmourthegreat]

There is for sure either fraud or misconduct here. Evidence is routinely switched between bags, but the Commissioner states that the evidence is still in the original bag. We either have a fake bag or a false statement by the commissioner, whether he knows it or not.

This could become the biggest legal problem the NHL has ever seen.

 

[dappleganger]

The other side of the coin is, just how much do we know about Thomas James Eoannou?

He is co-owner of Buffalo's North Park Theater.

He has provided Legal analysis for WGRZ News. https://twitter.com/wgrzmaryalice/status/454720893978415105

He represented a college QB Chad Kelly, Jim Kelly's nephew, in an assault case. http://www.wgr550.com/pages/20644499.php?poll142994ViewResults=1

He represented Kid Rock's bus driver in a DWI case. http://www.thebatavian.com/tags/kid-rock

He has argued against the merits of DNA evidence.http://sip-trunking.tmcnet.com/news/2012/12/12/6788316.htm

He is a North Buffalo developer according to an article by WGRZ. http://buffalo.suntimes.com/buf-news/buf-business/7/116/164574/buffalo-apartment-demand/

He represented a man who pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting 3 teenaged girls. http://www.speakupwny.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-67037.html

Represented a convicted rapist. http://www.buffalonews.com/20130329/man_who_raped_12_year_old_girl_gets_14_year_sentence.html

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Uhh...

http://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/647211294987161601

@FriedgeHNIC

Kane accuser lawyer says new information is making him step away from representing her.

http://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/647211505323126784

@FriedgeHNIC

"I no longer have confidence in the manner and means how that bag came to my office." (paraphrase.)

 

[bustaheims]

frank_seravalli: Eoannou, the accuser's lawyer, says "misrepresentations" were made to him about evidence bag and will no longer represent the client. #TSN

frank_seravalli: Eoannou: "I can't say what's true and what's not true," mentions "ethical obligation" to withdrawal from the case.

frank_seravalli: Eoannou says there is "no question" that this is the "real evidence bag from this case."

FriedgeHNIC: "I am not comfortable with that version of events" from mother on how he received the bag.

Well, this casts some pretty serious doubts. Things are getting really convoluted in this case.

 

[rdowdall]

Well that's interesting.

 

[dappleganger]

I can't wait for the made-for-tv movie of this. Whoever mentioned Law and Order can see into the future or something.

 

[Kin]

Worth pointing out that Eoannou flatly denied that the accuser herself had anything to do with the bag situation.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Bizarre. So they're still saying that the evidence bag is authentic (and the DA hasn't said otherwise), but how they got the bag is the issue here. From the sounds of it it was the mother of the victim who wasn't completely honest. I know that earlier in this afternoon it was announced that the DA would be speaking tomorrow about the case, hopefully he can shed a little more light on what's going on.

 

[bustaheims]

Bizarre. So they're still saying that the evidence bag is authentic (and the DA hasn't said otherwise), but how they got the bag is the issue here. From the sounds of it it was the mother of the victim who wasn't completely honest. I know that earlier in this afternoon it was announced that the DA would be speaking tomorrow about the case, hopefully he can shed a little more light on what's going on.

Yeah. The whole situation is becoming pretty convoluted. Not sure why anyone on the accuser's side wouldn't be truthful about this situation unless they or someone they're close to/involved with was somehow involved (or they're involved in some sort of other criminal activity that would have been exposed by being entirely forthright, but that feels like a stretch). It doesn't help them if the evidence has been tampered with. It's too late to do another rape kit, and the meager evidence that the DNA from underneath her nails provided would be invalid. There's some funny business going on.

 

[rdowdall]

Bizarre. So they're still saying that the evidence bag is authentic (and the DA hasn't said otherwise), but how they got the bag is the issue here. From the sounds of it it was the mother of the victim who wasn't completely honest. I know that earlier in this afternoon it was announced that the DA would be speaking tomorrow about the case, hopefully he can shed a little more light on what's going on.

Yeah. The whole situation is becoming pretty convoluted. Not sure why anyone on the accuser's side wouldn't be truthful about this situation unless they or someone they're close to/involved with was somehow involved (or they're involved in some sort of other criminal activity that would have been exposed by being entirely forthright, but that feels like a stretch). It doesn't help them if the evidence has been tampered with. It's too late to do another rape kit, and the meager evidence that the DNA from underneath her nails provided would be invalid. There's some funny business going on.

It seemed coincidental that they couldn't provide a timeline.  In the press conference they made a point of saying that the bag could have been there for a day and a half, which felt forced, almost like they were saying "No no, the bag showed up before the DNA results were released". 

Also I thought it was weird that Eoannou pointed out that he was a criminal lawyer, and not a civil lawyer, unprovoked.  I may have missed the question that prompted that response though. 

 

[bustaheims]

Also I thought it was weird that Eoannou pointed out that he was a criminal lawyer, and not a civil lawyer, unprovoked.  I may have missed the question that prompted that response though.

I'm pretty sure he was asked about a potential settlement. He prefaced the comment about being a criminal lawyer with something along the lines of him never having gone for a settlement on a case or something.

 

[rdowdall]

Also I thought it was weird that Eoannou pointed out that he was a criminal lawyer, and not a civil lawyer, unprovoked.  I may have missed the question that prompted that response though.

I'm pretty sure he was asked about a potential settlement. He prefaced the comment about being a criminal lawyer with something along the lines of him never having gone for a settlement on a case or something.

Okay, I just didn't understand the context of the question then.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Don't feel like reposting everything, but read this timeline for today's update: https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Basically, the bag that the mother turned over claiming to be from the rape kit wasn't authentic after all. The rape kit evidence was actually placed in a box, never in a bag. The bag that the mother turned over was actually given to her by the hospital to put the victims belongings in. The mother was the last person seen with the bag before she claimed that somebody left it by her door, which obviously wasn't true.

 

[bustaheims]

Basically, the bag that the mother turned over claiming to be from the rape kit wasn't authentic after all. The rape kit evidence was actually placed in a box, never in a bag. The bag that the mother turned over was actually given to her by the hospital to put the victims belongings in. The mother was the last person seen with the bag before she claimed that somebody left it by her door, which obviously wasn't true.

That's a pretty significant difference. You'd think an experienced criminal lawyer would know things like that.

 

[Frank E]

Basically, the bag that the mother turned over claiming to be from the rape kit wasn't authentic after all. The rape kit evidence was actually placed in a box, never in a bag. The bag that the mother turned over was actually given to her by the hospital to put the victims belongings in. The mother was the last person seen with the bag before she claimed that somebody left it by her door, which obviously wasn't true.

That's a pretty significant difference. You'd think an experienced criminal lawyer would know things like that.

You'd also think that the lawyer wouldn't fling sh*t at the police department before checking to make sure that what was handed to him was actually a rape kit.

 

[bustaheims]

You'd also think that the lawyer wouldn't fling sh*t at the police department before checking to make sure that what was handed to him was actually a rape kit.

Yeah, that too. Not the most professional way to handle things. It's starting to feel like he wasn't well equipped to handle such a high profile case.