RFA Contract Talks Thread

[L K]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.  It leaves the Leafs with around 11 million dollars to sign RFAs - Reimer, Gardiner and Franson.  They could still be somewhat tight up against the cap depending on arbitration/a long-term deal for Gardiner if they end up doing something like:  Franson 1 year 3M, Gardiner 4 years 3.75M, Reimer 1 year 3M or something like that but they should be able to manage it with a little room to spare.

 

[Redleaf]

Holland signs two-way contract.

Details coming...

I see that its 2 years, where do you see its 2 way?

My bad. Two years, not two way.

 

[freer]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.

That being said, I have read that there is very little chance Orr will play! I guess we will see.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

1 way, $775K each year I'm reading on twitter.

So far I just see Anthony Petrielli saying that, who is he?

A real bro.  Says he received a text from someone in the know, see no reason for him to make up a Peter Holland contract if he wasn't sure.

 

[Zee]

And then there were 3, Gardiner, Franson and Jimmy Reimer.

 

[Boston Leaf]

Hope they find homes for Franson and Reimer..

 

[CarltonTheBear]

1 way, $775K each year I'm reading on twitter.

Great to have him locked up at that for 2 years.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.  It leaves the Leafs with around 11 million dollars to sign RFAs - Reimer, Gardiner and Franson.  They could still be somewhat tight up against the cap depending on arbitration/a long-term deal for Gardiner if they end up doing something like:  Franson 1 year 3M, Gardiner 4 years 3.75M, Reimer 1 year 3M or something like that but they should be able to manage it with a little room to spare.

Even with those signings, the Leafs would have over $1mil in cap space with a 23-man roster. Considering the mess they were in last season Claude Loiselle must be doing back-flips.

And of course it's still possible one or both of Franson/Reimer get traded or Gardiner gets a cheaper short-term contract.

 

[Frank E]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.  It leaves the Leafs with around 11 million dollars to sign RFAs - Reimer, Gardiner and Franson.  They could still be somewhat tight up against the cap depending on arbitration/a long-term deal for Gardiner if they end up doing something like:  Franson 1 year 3M, Gardiner 4 years 3.75M, Reimer 1 year 3M or something like that but they should be able to manage it with a little room to spare.

Even with those signings, the Leafs would have over $1mil in cap space with a 23-man roster. Considering the mess they were in last season Claude Loiselle must be doing back-flips.

And of course it's still possible one or both of Franson/Reimer get traded or Gardiner gets a cheaper short-term contract.

We should probably discuss whether or not we think that having a $3mil backup goalie is a good use of Leaf cap space.

I'm on the "not good" side of the argument.

 

[Capn_Crunch]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.  It leaves the Leafs with around 11 million dollars to sign RFAs - Reimer, Gardiner and Franson.  They could still be somewhat tight up against the cap depending on arbitration/a long-term deal for Gardiner if they end up doing something like:  Franson 1 year 3M, Gardiner 4 years 3.75M, Reimer 1 year 3M or something like that but they should be able to manage it with a little room to spare.

Even with those signings, the Leafs would have over $1mil in cap space with a 23-man roster. Considering the mess they were in last season Claude Loiselle must be doing back-flips.

And of course it's still possible one or both of Franson/Reimer get traded or Gardiner gets a cheaper short-term contract.

I think it is more likely that we see a long term deal for Gardiner then another bridge deal.
5yrs@4-5 mill.

Very happy with the holland signing. Another low risk and high reward deal. At least we'll start to get a feel for what he really can bring to the table over the long haul.

 

[Capn_Crunch]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.  It leaves the Leafs with around 11 million dollars to sign RFAs - Reimer, Gardiner and Franson.  They could still be somewhat tight up against the cap depending on arbitration/a long-term deal for Gardiner if they end up doing something like:  Franson 1 year 3M, Gardiner 4 years 3.75M, Reimer 1 year 3M or something like that but they should be able to manage it with a little room to spare.

Even with those signings, the Leafs would have over $1mil in cap space with a 23-man roster. Considering the mess they were in last season Claude Loiselle must be doing back-flips.

And of course it's still possible one or both of Franson/Reimer get traded or Gardiner gets a cheaper short-term contract.

We should probably discuss whether or not we think that having a $3mil backup goalie is a good use of Leaf cap space.

I'm on the "not good" side of the argument.

Who would we use that would save us enough money to make it worthwhile to change the situation and where is that player going to come from?

There is a huge difference in having a backup who is capable of being just that a back up.... and one who is also capable of being a competent Starter on any given night.

I'd rather spend a bit more and have a tandem where both on any given night can beat you then having a backup that we shudder when we see him starting and know it will probably end in a loss. We've been down that path before more then a few times already

 

[bustaheims]

We should probably discuss whether or not we think that having a $3mil backup goalie is a good use of Leaf cap space.

I'm on the "not good" side of the argument.

Or you can look at it as the Leafs spending less than $6M on their goaltending, which includes two very good young goalies.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Dreger confirms it:

@jonasTSN1050

Per @DarrenDreger, Peter Holland's contract is for $775,000/season. Two-year (and as noted earlier), one-way deal.

 

[freer]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.  It leaves the Leafs with around 11 million dollars to sign RFAs - Reimer, Gardiner and Franson.  They could still be somewhat tight up against the cap depending on arbitration/a long-term deal for Gardiner if they end up doing something like:  Franson 1 year 3M, Gardiner 4 years 3.75M, Reimer 1 year 3M or something like that but they should be able to manage it with a little room to spare.

Even with those signings, the Leafs would have over $1mil in cap space with a 23-man roster. Considering the mess they were in last season Claude Loiselle must be doing back-flips.

And of course it's still possible one or both of Franson/Reimer get traded or Gardiner gets a cheaper short-term contract.

I think it is more likely that we see a long term deal for Gardiner then another bridge deal.
5yrs@4-5 mill.

Very happy with the holland signing. Another low risk and high reward deal. At least we'll start to get a feel for what he really can bring to the table over the long haul.

WOW, I hope they dont sign Gardiner for that much. Yes he is good but not that good

 

[Corn Flake]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.  It leaves the Leafs with around 11 million dollars to sign RFAs - Reimer, Gardiner and Franson.  They could still be somewhat tight up against the cap depending on arbitration/a long-term deal for Gardiner if they end up doing something like:  Franson 1 year 3M, Gardiner 4 years 3.75M, Reimer 1 year 3M or something like that but they should be able to manage it with a little room to spare.

Even with those signings, the Leafs would have over $1mil in cap space with a 23-man roster. Considering the mess they were in last season Claude Loiselle must be doing back-flips.

And of course it's still possible one or both of Franson/Reimer get traded or Gardiner gets a cheaper short-term contract.

I think it is more likely that we see a long term deal for Gardiner then another bridge deal.
5yrs@4-5 mill.

Very happy with the holland signing. Another low risk and high reward deal. At least we'll start to get a feel for what he really can bring to the table over the long haul.

WOW, I hope they dont sign Gardiner for that much. Yes he is good but not that good

Pretty sure he will get closer to Kadri "bridge" money.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.  It leaves the Leafs with around 11 million dollars to sign RFAs - Reimer, Gardiner and Franson.  They could still be somewhat tight up against the cap depending on arbitration/a long-term deal for Gardiner if they end up doing something like:  Franson 1 year 3M, Gardiner 4 years 3.75M, Reimer 1 year 3M or something like that but they should be able to manage it with a little room to spare.

Even with those signings, the Leafs would have over $1mil in cap space with a 23-man roster. Considering the mess they were in last season Claude Loiselle must be doing back-flips.

And of course it's still possible one or both of Franson/Reimer get traded or Gardiner gets a cheaper short-term contract.

I think it is more likely that we see a long term deal for Gardiner then another bridge deal.
5yrs@4-5 mill.

Very happy with the holland signing. Another low risk and high reward deal. At least we'll start to get a feel for what he really can bring to the table over the long haul.

WOW, I hope they dont sign Gardiner for that much. Yes he is good but not that good

JVR was probably not worth $4.25M the day he signed his deal, but you sign that under a calculated risk that he's going to continue to develop and make that deal look great in a couple of years.  At the time JVR signed that deal it was more than Giroux was making, the Giroux coming off a 93 point season (and JVR coming off 24 points in 43 games).

The key is to try and lock up a player to a reasonable deal through their most productive seasons.  If you can get Gardiner on a longer term deal for $4-5 rather than a 1 or 2 year deal I think you do it.  Will take him almost to 30 years old on a 5 year deal.

 

[freer]

Both are very good deals.  Both are less than Colton Orr.  Sigh.  It leaves the Leafs with around 11 million dollars to sign RFAs - Reimer, Gardiner and Franson.  They could still be somewhat tight up against the cap depending on arbitration/a long-term deal for Gardiner if they end up doing something like:  Franson 1 year 3M, Gardiner 4 years 3.75M, Reimer 1 year 3M or something like that but they should be able to manage it with a little room to spare.

Even with those signings, the Leafs would have over $1mil in cap space with a 23-man roster. Considering the mess they were in last season Claude Loiselle must be doing back-flips.

And of course it's still possible one or both of Franson/Reimer get traded or Gardiner gets a cheaper short-term contract.

I think it is more likely that we see a long term deal for Gardiner then another bridge deal.
5yrs@4-5 mill.

Very happy with the holland signing. Another low risk and high reward deal. At least we'll start to get a feel for what he really can bring to the table over the long haul.

WOW, I hope they dont sign Gardiner for that much. Yes he is good but not that good

JVR was probably not worth $4.25M the day he signed his deal, but you sign that under a calculated risk that he's going to continue to develop and make that deal look great in a couple of years.  At the time JVR signed that deal it was more than Giroux was making, the Giroux coming off a 93 point season (and JVR coming off 24 points in 43 games).

The key is to try and lock up a player to a reasonable deal through their most productive seasons.  If you can get Gardiner on a longer term deal for $4-5 rather than a 1 or 2 year deal I think you do it.  Will take him almost to 30 years old on a 5 year deal.

I would be quite happy with him signed to Gunderson money 3 mil a year for 4 -5 years. But IMO 4-5 mil a years is two much.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I would be quite happy with him signed to Gunderson money 3 mil a year for 4 -5 years. But IMO 4-5 mil a years is two much.

Sure you would be, we all would be. But he's easily worth $3mil right now. In 3-5 years it'll be much higher, so there's no way he locks himself in at that rate for that long.

 

[bustaheims]

I would be quite happy with him signed to Gunderson money 3 mil a year for 4 -5 years. But IMO 4-5 mil a years is two much.

Gunderson?

 

[Deebo]

I would be quite happy with him signed to Gunderson money 3 mil a year for 4 -5 years. But IMO 4-5 mil a years is two much.

Gunderson?