Nik the Trik said:
Or that they shouldn't make a big UFA signing assuming the player and time is appropriate.
Steve Stamkos?
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Or that they shouldn't make a big UFA signing assuming the player and time is appropriate.
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CarltonTheBear said:
I can neither confirm or deny that the old filters aren't active anymore.
Nik the Trik said:
I disagree. Burke had autonomy to do what he saw fit and so did Nonis (using Carlyle's delightful hockey mind). When Burke was hired, how well were the Leafs performing after all?
He grossly misread the state his team was in and grossly overestimated their performance potential. Plain and simple. It was JFJ who's hands were tied.
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CarltonTheBear said:
I don't think Stamkos is unrelated to the chances of making a significant trade. Adding elite talent frees them to move a high-ceiling forward for a high-ceiling defenseman.
MM + WN + AM < SS + (2 of AM, WN, MM) + (return on one of AM, WN, MM)
Anyhow, a week or so back Mirtle put the Leafs likelihood of signing Stamkos at 10%. Today's column put it at 30%, highest of the likely suitors. It is (maybe) happening.
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TBLeafer said:
Again, he had autonomy but the reason he got the job is because he wanted to maintain the model that MLSE made conditional for anyone they hired. They turned down Scotty Bowman because he wanted to scrap things, Burke(and Nonis certainly) weren't exceptions to that.
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Nik the Trik said:
Sure. But more talent gives you more options.
Nik the Trik said:
See CTB response.
Their locked up core players consist of a 2C, 1-2D and a 1G. Rookies are still rookies no matter how good they project. A 26 year old 1C locked up for 7 years is just another solid established core team building piece if building a contender is the goal.
ESPECIALLY since there is a potential true 1C replacement developing as well, in order for a winning team to stay competitive.
Let's face it. As intelligent as you are (of which I have no doubt) you have locked yourself into 'tank now mode' for another year or two and are just afraid of them not reaching their goal if they decided they want to start working toward the goal sooner than that.
They have full prospect cupboard, unlike any other Leafs team I have been alive to see. Their future cap projections are solid.
There is no problem with building a winner as soon as possible now when they haven't traded away that future in order to do so.
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Nik the Trik said:
Has this been confirmed? If so, then the ownership change of MLSE from Teachers to Rogers/Bell was the best thing to ever happen to the club. The new owners are on-board for a tear-down and rebuild whereas the old owners wanted the impossible, win without building properly.
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the question on endorsements....
Stamkos might generate between $300,000 and $600,000 per endorsement deal, several marketing executives told TSN. Only Pittsburgh Penguins star Sidney Crosby can typically command more. Crosby, who has partnerships with the likes of Gatorade, Tim Hortons and Verizon, generates as much as $4.5 million annually from his off-ice deals, Forbes magazine estimates.
Stamkos might generate between $300,000 and $600,000 per endorsement deal, several marketing executives told TSN. Only Pittsburgh Penguins star Sidney Crosby can typically command more. Crosby, who has partnerships with the likes of Gatorade, Tim Hortons and Verizon, generates as much as $4.5 million annually from his off-ice deals, Forbes magazine estimates.
I think Teachers knew the profit would continue and were content to a point to leave as-is to please their stakeholders.
Whereas TSN and Rogers with a winner can also stuff their coffers with their other properties so thankfully they are taking a hit for the hopeful massive payoff.
Whereas TSN and Rogers with a winner can also stuff their coffers with their other properties so thankfully they are taking a hit for the hopeful massive payoff.
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Zee said:
Yeah, more or less:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/no-sense-of-urgency-in-board-room/article957103/
Zee said:
We'll see. As this thread has gone out of it's way to establish over and over again, there's a world of difference between actually being on board for a proper teardown and rebuild and saying you are and getting impatient after a year.
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TBLeafer said:
The question was why is your way of looking at the history more valid than the one Herman suggested when yours included the success of trades, the wisdom of making trades at some point not being disputed by anyone. Herman was making a specific point regarding the success of free agency, including trades in that evaluation is obfuscation, not clarity.
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