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The Official TV Thread

CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
Nik said:
I've really enjoyed what I've seen so far of The Flight Attendant. Fast paced, smart, fun murder mystery.

Same. Very enjoyable so far.

I overheard my gf watching it and I couldn't get passed some of the dialog. Maybe you could sell me on it? :P

I mean, there's genuine intrigue, the pacing is good, and it's surprisingly fun for a murder mystery. The main character makes so many bad decisions, and that can be frustrating for some, but it fits her backstory and character development. In some ways, it's somewhat unique as the genre goes, but also familiar.

I'm only about half way through but wanted to jump on this shows bandwagon. It's surprisingly good.

I haven't seen it yet but it looks like it got picked up for a Season 2 at least.
 
bustaheims said:
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
Nik said:
I've really enjoyed what I've seen so far of The Flight Attendant. Fast paced, smart, fun murder mystery.

Same. Very enjoyable so far.

I overheard my gf watching it and I couldn't get passed some of the dialog. Maybe you could sell me on it? :P

I mean, there's genuine intrigue, the pacing is good, and it's surprisingly fun for a murder mystery. The main character makes so many bad decisions, and that can be frustrating for some, but it fits her backstory and character development. In some ways, it's somewhat unique as the genre goes, but also familiar.

Cuoco is definitely great in this role and the character has a lot of depth to her but this is what I'm having a hard time overlooking. There are just so many silly decisions and blatant plot conveniences/contrivances. Does it start to make a little more sense after episode 4?
 
Andy said:
bustaheims said:
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
Nik said:
I've really enjoyed what I've seen so far of The Flight Attendant. Fast paced, smart, fun murder mystery.

Same. Very enjoyable so far.

I overheard my gf watching it and I couldn't get passed some of the dialog. Maybe you could sell me on it? :P

I mean, there's genuine intrigue, the pacing is good, and it's surprisingly fun for a murder mystery. The main character makes so many bad decisions, and that can be frustrating for some, but it fits her backstory and character development. In some ways, it's somewhat unique as the genre goes, but also familiar.

Cuoco is definitely great in this role and the character has a lot of depth to her but this is what I'm having a hard time overlooking. There are just so many silly decisions and blatant plot conveniences/contrivances. Does it start to make a little more sense after episode 4?

Well, it is a TV show, not a documentary.  Suspension of disbelief is definitely required. 

Having said that, she makes one dumb decision after another in all aspects of her life, so it sort of makes sense.

 
Rob said:
Andy said:
Cuoco is definitely great in this role and the character has a lot of depth to her but this is what I'm having a hard time overlooking. There are just so many silly decisions and blatant plot conveniences/contrivances. Does it start to make a little more sense after episode 4?

Well, it is a TV show, not a documentary.  Suspension of disbelief is definitely required. 

Having said that, she makes one dumb decision after another in all aspects of her life, so it sort of makes sense.

Yeah and honestly that's kinda what I like about it. We're so used to seeing these sort of mystery shows get solved by some genius main character... it's a nice change for once to watch a f*ck-up get placed in this sort of situation.
 
Ok so it doesn't make more sense after episode 4  ;)

I like it but I'm just having trouble overlooking a lot of eye-rolling plot conveniences and preposterousness. Glad everyone else is loving it though. I'll probably continue, then. But I really was much more enthralled by Tabula Rasa on netflix.
 
Andy said:
Ok so it doesn't make more sense after episode 4  ;)

Haha. I'm not sure exactly which specific points would be blatant plot holes, but it's definitely more of a "turn your brain off and enjoy" type of show so it's possible I've missed them. Just a nice change of pace from some of the more serious type dramas I've been watching.

Slight edit because I think that came off a bit harsh on the writers, I wouldn't really call it a dumb show or anything like that.
 
It?s not been on here in the UK/Ireland as yet but I managed to obtain the episodes. It?s actually a perfect just pure Christmas watch. It IS a bit preposterous and silly, but it?s also fun and there?s enough of a whodunnit to it to keep you interested (after a couple of episodes anyway).
 
My son watches Cobra Kai, and I have to admit I like watching it with him. There's more substance to it than I expected, and it's pretty impressive they managed to take a villain from Karate Kid (Johnny) and turn him into a very flawed hero.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
My son watches Cobra Kai, and I have to admit I like watching it with him. There's more substance to it than I expected, and it's pretty impressive they managed to take a villain from Karate Kid (Johnny) and turn him into a very flawed hero.
Can I watch it without ever watching Karate Kid?
 
Re: Cobra Kai

You probably could. But for me about 70% of the draw of it is the nostalgia

It?s pretty cheesy in parts..
 
Guilt Trip said:
Don't know how old it is but just  watched Tough Guy The Bob Probert Story. Interesting and very sad.

Yes I enjoyed that one.
If anyone is looking for some other hockey docs to watch check out
"Valiant" which is the story of the shooting in Vegas which came just days before the Golden Knights kicked off their first season. It's really well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APyU1yn5r8c

"Making CoCo-The Grant Fuhr Story" - Not must see tv, but still interesting to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X4IRNKEOK0
 
Arn said:
Re: Cobra Kai

You probably could. But for me about 70% of the draw of it is the nostalgia

It?s pretty cheesy in parts..

I think the only way to get past some of the poor acting in the series is through the nostalgia of knowing the characters since I was very young. I enjoy it for the cheesiness but I think that's because it's a childhood memory show. When that movie came out, you better believe we were trying to mimic Danielson's knockout kick!
 
OldTimeHockey said:
Arn said:
Re: Cobra Kai

You probably could. But for me about 70% of the draw of it is the nostalgia

It?s pretty cheesy in parts..

I think the only way to get past some of the poor acting in the series is through the nostalgia of knowing the characters since I was very young. I enjoy it for the cheesiness but I think that's because it's a childhood memory show. When that movie came out, you better believe we were trying to mimic Danielson's knockout kick!

Yeah, I wonder if watching the original movie(s) has the same effect if you are watching them with today's perspective.
 
Bender said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
My son watches Cobra Kai, and I have to admit I like watching it with him. There's more substance to it than I expected, and it's pretty impressive they managed to take a villain from Karate Kid (Johnny) and turn him into a very flawed hero.

Can I watch it without ever watching Karate Kid?

It is revealing of my age that my initial, brief impression from your question was the entire premise of not having seen The Karate Kid seemed proposterous.

I'll agree with the many other respondents to your question. It *can* be watched without having seen the movie, but the show does build on the general story and animosities from the movie. It does have relatively frequent flashbacks to scenes from the movie that likely fill in all the blanks to newcomers, I suppose.

It absolutely is cheesy and absolutely has some bad acting. But there's multiple creative role-reversals and it's refreshing seeing the 1984 hero painted on frequent occasion as a bit of a dick, and fleshing out the 1984 villain as a flawed decent guy who's had some really bad role models. He reminds me of Prince Zuko from Avatar, who I've always had a soft spot for, and I think he's the one decent actor on the show.

More than anything, though, I think I like watching the show with my son because it really examines father-son and mentor-mentee relationships.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Bender said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
My son watches Cobra Kai, and I have to admit I like watching it with him. There's more substance to it than I expected, and it's pretty impressive they managed to take a villain from Karate Kid (Johnny) and turn him into a very flawed hero.

Can I watch it without ever watching Karate Kid?

It is revealing of my age that my initial, brief impression from your question was the entire premise of not having seen The Karate Kid seemed proposterous.

I'll agree with the many other respondents to your question. It *can* be watched without having seen the movie, but the show does build on the general story and animosities from the movie. It does have relatively frequent flashbacks to scenes from the movie that likely fill in all the blanks to newcomers, I suppose.

It absolutely is cheesy and absolutely has some bad acting. But there's multiple creative role-reversals and it's refreshing seeing the 1984 hero painted on frequent occasion as a bit of a dick, and fleshing out the 1984 villain as a flawed decent guy who's had some really bad role models. He reminds me of Prince Zuko from Avatar, who I've always had a soft spot for, and I think he's the one decent actor on the show.

More than anything, though, I think I like watching the show with my son because it really examines father-son and mentor-mentee relationships.

I also *have* to post Gary Gulman's bit about The Karate Kid (*movie spoilers*):

https://youtu.be/Uo1wj_eNMZ8
 
OldTimeHockey said:
Arn said:
Re: Cobra Kai

You probably could. But for me about 70% of the draw of it is the nostalgia

It?s pretty cheesy in parts..

I think the only way to get past some of the poor acting in the series is through the nostalgia of knowing the characters since I was very young. I enjoy it for the cheesiness but I think that's because it's a childhood memory show. When that movie came out, you better believe we were trying to mimic Danielson's knockout kick!

So Karate Kid 3 holds a special place in my heart.

I was about 7 years old and my parents had just got a new VCR player and the local news agent had added a video rentals section. I managed to convince my parents to let me have a party for the release of the new Batman movie. VCR, big 15 inch television, thick curtains closed, snacks arranged all to imitate being in the cinema but at home.

Except... the newsagent only had one copy and it was booked out. So we took the other new release from that weekend as our movie - Karate Kid 3. Then of course I got the two other movies and watched them later that week.

So that?s where I watch Cobra Kai from. And it totally paints over any cracks, such as bad acting
 
Back to The Flight Attendant

It would be so much better without the cuts to her and Alex I think.

(3 episodes to go, it IS fun)
 
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