US Olympic Roster Announced

[brothert]

I see it as a double-edged sword. Burke definitely has a gift for showmanship and makes for entertaining clips, but in some circles it's considered a lack of professionalism and is what got him fired by the Maple Leafs.

I don't think that's what got him fired from the Leafs. I think he just clashed with the board which can happen to anyone, even the dull as dishwater sorts who typically are in hockey.

Like Mike Smith for exampe  ;D

 

[Madferret]

With the group of forwards they did take I suppose Ryan is interchangeable and it's their perogative if they're not big on taking as many game-breakers as they can. Not including Yandle is a big gaff imo...I'm dieing to know what word he failed at spelling the past summer <perogative?>

 

[lamajama]

I think Ryan should grow up, ignore the bad man's comment and go cash his multi million dollar paycheques and be thankful for his lot in life.

Should anyone really be concerned as long as the Sens are happy with him?

Pretty thin skin.

 

[drummond]

    Carlyle expressing concern about van Riemsdyk, Kessel going to Olympics. Had 7 in Vancouver, said Canadians had "no emotion" left after.
    ? Stephen Whyno (@SWhyno) January 4, 2014

Interesting perspective I gave no much thought before, but Carlyle certainly has a point. Lets hope for US early exit in Sochi leaving Kessel and JvR motivated  8)

 

[Kin]

Interesting perspective I gave no much thought before, but Carlyle certainly has a point.

Not really. The Cup winners that year were the Blackhawks who had Toews, Keith and Seabrook win gold at the Olympics and all three had good playoffs. San Jose went to the third round and had Heatley, Marleau, Thornton and Boyle.

 

[drummond]

Interesting perspective I gave no much thought before, but Carlyle certainly has a point.

Not really. The Cup winners that year were the Blackhawks who had Toews, Keith and Seabrook win gold at the Olympics and all three had good playoffs. San Jose went to the third round and had Heatley, Marleau, Thornton and Boyle.

Oh, I did not realize that. You are right Nik. So it was probably just Carlyle who could not get his guys going again.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Weird Carlyle blaming his players again.

 

[bustaheims]

Weird Carlyle blaming his players again.

I know. So out of character.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Weird Carlyle blaming his players again.

I know. So out of character.

Almost like it's something most coaches do, but when Wilson did it it was "throwing them under the bus" instead.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

By the time the Olympics roll around the 24/7, Winter Classic, suspension, and injury excuses might not work anymore. The Leafs might need something new.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

By the time the Olympics roll around the 24/7, Winter Classic, suspension, and injury excuses might not work anymore. The Leafs might need something new.

Still adjusting to the 82 game schedule after the short season.

 

[L K]

2010 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Chicago (SCF)- Keith, Seabrook, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Kopecky
Philadelphia (SCF)- Timonen, Pronger, Richards, Bartulis
San Jose (WCF) - Boyle, Heatley, Marleau, Thornton, Pavelsky, Nabokov, Greiss, Murray
Montreal (ECF) - Plekanec, Markov, Halak, Kostitsyn

Anaheim
Selanne - 19 points in 17 games +12
Koivu - 19 points in 18 games +8
Niedermayer - 11 points in 18 games +8
Getzlaf - 8 points in 10 games +/-0
Perry - 17 points in 20 games -3
Hiller - 13 starts/GP 2.84 GAA .916 SV%    (Season 2.40 GAA .918 SV%)
Whitney - 11 points in 19 games +7
Ryan - 15 points in 19 games +5

So every single player who went to the Olympics for the Ducks that year came back at or BETTER than their performance prior to going to Vancouver.  Yes, individual stats don't mean that the team as a whole was playing cohesively, but I think its a gigantic load from Carlyle that the Olympic participation by his star players was the reason they missed the playoffs.  I would buy the argument that the players who DIDN'T play for a month were the ones most affected because they sat around and weren't able to continue any sort of momentum from the season and essentially started at training camp all over again.

The Ducks finished the year 9-7-4 in March/April.  A ~90 point pace.  One of those wins was in the shootout.  So they won 8 of 20 games in regulation.

Coming in to the Olympic break the Ducks were 30-24-7.  A ~90 point pace.  Four of those wins came via shootout.  So they won 26 of 60 games in Regulation.

I think the far more likely conclusion to why the Ducks missed the playoffs was that their bottom 6 wasn't very good that year.  JS Guigere played like crap prior to his trade to Toronto on January 31.  And Carlyle just gets to pass the buck.

 

[bustaheims]

With the group of forwards they did take I suppose Ryan is interchangeable and it's their perogative if they're not big on taking as many game-breakers as they can. Not including Yandle is a big gaff imo...I'm dieing to know what word he failed at spelling the past summer <perogative?>

Literally. As in, some things aren't meant to be taken literally.

 

[Redleaf]

Team USA

Forward
Phil Kessel
James Van Riemsdyk
Zach Parise
Derek Steppan
Blake Wheeler
TJ Oshie
Joe Pavelski
David Backes
Dustin Brown
Ryan Callahan
Patrick Kane
Ryan Kesler
Max Pacioretty
Paul Stastny

Defense
Ryan McDonagh
Kevin Shattenkirk
Ryan Suter
Brooks Orpik
John Carlson
Paul Martin
Justin Faulk
Cam Fowler

Goalie
Jonathan Quick
Jimmy Howard
Ryan Miller

It would have been nice to see Gardiner get a shot for team USA. I'm sure it would have helped his game out a lot.

 

[ZBBM]

Nice article on Warroad, Minnesota -- the real Hockeytown USA:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/05/sports/olympics/minnesotas-olympic-hockey-cradle-pop-1781.html?hpw&rref=sports

 

[Madferret]

Burke - 0.7
Hockey Gods - 8