2012-2013 NHL Thread

[bustaheims]

While we are on the topic of shootouts, how would you feel about having the entire team participate in them? Eliminate the 4-on-4 for the extra time. Shooters alternate with only a max 30 second break in between. Shooters go alphabetically until all players have gone. Most goals wins.

Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to complete.

18 shooters a side would take closer to half an hour than it would 10 minutes and, you know, no.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

While we are on the topic of shootouts, how would you feel about having the entire team participate in them? Eliminate the 4-on-4 for the extra time. Shooters alternate with only a max 30 second break in between. Shooters go alphabetically until all players have gone. Most goals wins.

Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to complete.

You should write for The Onion.

 

[TML fan]

While we are on the topic of shootouts, how would you feel about having the entire team participate in them? Eliminate the 4-on-4 for the extra time. Shooters alternate with only a max 30 second break in between. Shooters go alphabetically until all players have gone. Most goals wins.

Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to complete.

I'd rather see that extra 10 minutes be used for 4 on 4 OT.

I agree but I don't think the shootout is going away. Just looking for a way to make it less of an individual contest.

 

[maplesyrup]

Would the shootout be more palatable if it was 2 on 1 vs. 1 on 0?

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

Would the shootout be more palatable if it was 2 on 1 vs. 1 on 0?

To me, it would.  It would suddenly feature team play, defensive play, passing skill, and can still feature great moves, great shots, and great saves.

 

[bustaheims]

Would the shootout be more palatable if it was 2 on 1 vs. 1 on 0?

No. That would really just make it more complicated than it needs to me. There really isn't a way to make the shootout more appealing than it already is. It's a terrible way to decide a game, regardless of how it's structured.

 

[bustaheims]

I agree but I don't think the shootout is going away. Just looking for a way to make it less of an individual contest.

Even if you get every player on the team involved, it's still an individual skill competition. There's still no teamwork involved.

 

[maplesyrup]

Would the shootout be more palatable if it was 2 on 1 vs. 1 on 0?

To me, it would.  It would suddenly feature team play, defensive play, passing skill, and can still feature great moves, great shots, and great saves.

Yeah, it certainly would create a whole other dynamic including being able to track who the better 2 on 1 defenders are.

 

[TML fan]

I agree but I don't think the shootout is going away. Just looking for a way to make it less of an individual contest.

Even if you get every player on the team involved, it's still an individual skill competition. There's still no teamwork involved.

True, but everyone has a hand in the outcome.

 

[bustaheims]

True, but everyone has a hand in the outcome.

Yeah, but, really, all that does it make the shootout really long. I mean, you're looking at 36 total shooters, minimum, under your proposal. That's just absurd.

 

[TML fan]

Would the shootout be more palatable if it was 2 on 1 vs. 1 on 0?

That'd be pretty cool. I'd actually watch that.

 

[Deebo]

A subtle idea to help end games in OT instead of shootouts was suggested on HNIC this past week:

It was suggested that switching ends might help goal scoring in OT, which would add the long change to 4 on 4.

 

[TML fan]

True, but everyone has a hand in the outcome.

Yeah, but, really, all that does it make the shootout really long. I mean, you're looking at 36 total shooters, minimum, under your proposal. That's just absurd.

No more absurd than having 1 guy decide the outcome of the game, in my opinion.

 

[bustaheims]

A subtle idea to help end games in OT instead of shootouts was suggested on HNIC this past week:

It was suggested that switching ends might help goal scoring in OT, which would add the long change to 4 on 4.

Yeah. I saw that, and I think that's a pretty good suggestion. They said something about more goals being scored in the 2nd period than the 1st or the 3rd (I'm not sure that's necessarily accurate, but, logically, it makes sense), so, the long change could definitely lead to more OT goals.

 

[bustaheims]

No more absurd than having 1 guy decide the outcome of the game, in my opinion.

It's really the same level of absurdity, just dragged out for longer.

 

[TML fan]

No more absurd than having 1 guy decide the outcome of the game, in my opinion.

It's really the same level of absurdity, just dragged out for longer.

More beer sales?

 

[bustaheims]

I think a couple subtle changes could really help avoid the shootout, and that's what the league should be looking at instead of modifying the shootout. The long change is one, but, something like having OT for 6 minutes instead of 5 would probably help as well. That way, OT is the equivalent of 10% of regulation time, and that extra minute could lead to a high enough increase in scoring chances to further minimize the impact of the shootout in the standings.

 

[bustaheims]

More beer sales?

If only they didn't stop selling beer midway through the 3rd.

 

[Deebo]

A subtle idea to help end games in OT instead of shootouts was suggested on HNIC this past week:

It was suggested that switching ends might help goal scoring in OT, which would add the long change to 4 on 4.

Yeah. I saw that, and I think that's a pretty good suggestion. They said something about more goals being scored in the 2nd period than the 1st or the 3rd (I'm not sure that's necessarily accurate, but, logically, it makes sense), so, the long change could definitely lead to more OT goals.

My preference is 10 minutes of 4 on 4, and if that doesn't produce a winner a tie is fine. I know a lot people seem to hate ties, but I don't see the harm them. Sometimes 2 teams play a evenly matched game in which neither team deserves to less points than the other.

I think tie's are best option available since continuous OT isn't an option in the regular season.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

True, but everyone has a hand in the outcome.

Yeah, but, really, all that does it make the shootout really long. I mean, you're looking at 36 total shooters, minimum, under your proposal. That's just absurd.

On the other hand, I think we'd all be keen to see the majesty of a Colton Orr or Korbinian Holzer shootout attempt.