2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion

[Kin]

Asking a player if he'd be open to a trade is not treating them like crap.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Asking a player if he'd be open to a trade is not treating them like crap.

Fine..We don't want you anymore. Better?

 

[Kin]

Fine..We don't want you anymore. Better?

Better at what? There's a reason why a smart executive wouldn't phrase things like that. There are ways to broach the subject reasonably where Marleau wouldn't need to feel slighted even if he was the fragile porcelain doll you seem to think he is.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I think Patrick Marleau has been around long enough to know it's part of the business side of the game. I'd also like to think that he'd be wise enough to see the writing on the wall already.

 

[Highlander]

Hey a beach chair on Robidas Island for a year is not a bad thing, plenty o money and lots of tropical drinkies
,the kidz can play in the surf and he can communicated with Mitch and Auston on Facetime

 

[ZBBM]

Marleau will only be leaving the Leafs before the end of his contract if he wants to.

And anyway, I'm not sure why all the complaining.  We knew from the get-go that his cap hit wasn't going to be justified by his points production.  They overpaid him to come in and be a mentor, which by all accounts he's done superbly, and hopefully put up a decent number of points.  He'll probably end up with 20/40 at the end of the season.  He won't be a defensive black hole.

Would it be nice if he were getting paid 4 instead of 6?  Of course, but then he never would have left SJ for that number.

I think Marleau is doing just fine, in the big scheme of things.

 

[Kin]

I think Patrick Marleau has been around long enough to know it's part of the business side of the game. I'd also like to think that he'd be wise enough to see the writing on the wall already.

Like I said though, you don't even need to bring it up in a way that implies anything. Because he's got the NMC he's got the final authority on trades so in any exit interview you could say "If we get any trade offers for you should we pass them along for your consideration or are you happy here?"

If he says he'd never even think of moving on, you drop it. If he seems receptive to at least considering it, you're not insulting him by exploring possibilities.

 

[Zee]

I think Patrick Marleau has been around long enough to know it's part of the business side of the game. I'd also like to think that he'd be wise enough to see the writing on the wall already.

Like I said though, you don't even need to bring it up in a way that implies anything. Because he's got the NMC he's got the final authority on trades so in any exit interview you could say "If we get any trade offers for you should we pass them along for your consideration or are you happy here?"

If he says he'd never even think of moving on, you drop it. If he seems receptive to at least considering it, you're not insulting him by exploring possibilities.

Winning a Cup this season might help make his decision. He would have already accomplished everything in his career at that point and might think twice about playing more years. Ergo, go back to SJ and play your retirement year.

 

[KadriFan]

I would be surprised if they offer him a coaching job next summer.  Maybe the Marlies

 

[Frank E]

Just so everyone knows, even if he retires, since he signed the contract at age 35+, his cap hit stays.

 

[Arn]

Marleau will only be leaving the Leafs before the end of his contract if he wants to.

And anyway, I'm not sure why all the complaining.  We knew from the get-go that his cap hit wasn't going to be justified by his points production.  They overpaid him to come in and be a mentor, which by all accounts he's done superbly, and hopefully put up a decent number of points.  He'll probably end up with 20/40 at the end of the season.  He won't be a defensive black hole.

Would it be nice if he were getting paid 4 instead of 6?  Of course, but then he never would have left SJ for that number.

I think Marleau is doing just fine, in the big scheme of things.

If there was a like function on this forum I'd have clicked like for this post.

We often deride "intangibles" since we can't quantify them but when it comes to it that's kind of exactly what he's providing, in a much better way than the likes of a Colton Orr, obviously

 

[Kin]

And anyway, I'm not sure why all the complaining. 

I've looked throughout the thread and I don't know where you're seeing "all the complaining" about Marleau. Some people think it'd make next year's team better if they didn't have to worry about his cap hit, then there's been some discussion about whether or not they could trade him.

 

[herman]

And anyway, I'm not sure why all the complaining. 

I've looked throughout the thread and I don't know where you're seeing "all the complaining" about Marleau. Some people think it'd make next year's team better if they didn't have to worry about his cap hit, then there's been some discussion about whether or not they could trade him.

Most of the complaining (about Marleau) is in the GDTs, so that might be the context of the comment.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

And anyway, I'm not sure why all the complaining. 

I've looked throughout the thread and I don't know where you're seeing "all the complaining" about Marleau. Some people think it'd make next year's team better if they didn't have to worry about his cap hit, then there's been some discussion about whether or not they could trade him.

Most of the complaining (about Marleau) is in the GDTs, so that might be the context of the comment.

Well, alot of the GDTs is just complaining and scapegoating in general, so one has to consider the source.

 

[ZBBM]

And anyway, I'm not sure why all the complaining. 

I've looked throughout the thread and I don't know where you're seeing "all the complaining" about Marleau. Some people think it'd make next year's team better if they didn't have to worry about his cap hit, then there's been some discussion about whether or not they could trade him.

Yeah I think herman's right it might have been in the GDTs. 

 

[mr grieves]

Marleau will only be leaving the Leafs before the end of his contract if he wants to.

And anyway, I'm not sure why all the complaining.  We knew from the get-go that his cap hit wasn't going to be justified by his points production.  They overpaid him to come in and be a mentor, which by all accounts he's done superbly, and hopefully put up a decent number of points.  He'll probably end up with 20/40 at the end of the season.  He won't be a defensive black hole.

Would it be nice if he were getting paid 4 instead of 6?  Of course, but then he never would have left SJ for that number.

I think Marleau is doing just fine, in the big scheme of things.

Yep. And if the Leafs don't win a Cup this season, the already slim chance of him wanting to leave the Leafs becomes zero.

If you get rid of Zaitsev and Brown, that opens up the same amount of cap dollars.

 

[Zee]

Any word or educated guesses how the lines will look for 2 games with Hyman out?

Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Ennis-Kadri-Nylander
Lindholm-Goat-Brown

? 

(Nylander could flip with Kapanen if they think Willy's ready to reunite with Matthews)

 

[Guilt Trip]

Any word or educated guesses how the lines will look for 2 games with Hyman out?

Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Ennis-Kadri-Nylander
Lindholm-Goat-Brown

? 

(Nylander could flip with Kapanen if they think Willy's ready to reunite with Matthews)

All likelihood, Brown takes his spot. Goat comes in and Lindholm goes to wing.

 

[Zee]

Any word or educated guesses how the lines will look for 2 games with Hyman out?

Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Ennis-Kadri-Nylander
Lindholm-Goat-Brown

? 

(Nylander could flip with Kapanen if they think Willy's ready to reunite with Matthews)

All likelihood, Brown takes his spot. Goat comes in and Lindholm goes to wing.

Oh yeah, forgot that Brown is like "Hyman-lite" in terms of his "he goes and gets the puck, and goes and gets it, and goes and gets it".  You're probably right

 

[Guilt Trip]

Any word or educated guesses how the lines will look for 2 games with Hyman out?

Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Ennis-Kadri-Nylander
Lindholm-Goat-Brown

? 

(Nylander could flip with Kapanen if they think Willy's ready to reunite with Matthews)

All likelihood, Brown takes his spot. Goat comes in and Lindholm goes to wing.

Oh yeah, forgot that Brown is like "Hyman-lite" in terms of his "he goes and gets the puck, and goes and gets it, and goes and gets it".  You're probably right

I would have liked to see one of the Marlies get rewarded for a few games.