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Armchair GM Thread 2024-25

cabber24 said:
Pass
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I also pass.... the only upside would be a stronger drive this playoffs, plus Marner and Rantanen can compete for an 8 year deal.

Do like Burke's trade of Pronger (you can look up the story)...... Hand Marner and Rantanen terms in an envelope and say whoever confirms first gets to play on the Leafs.

Leafs are too pussy to do this but it would solve a lot by giving $100m offer to each and let them compete.
 
Joe S. said:
That Schenn contract is such an anchor
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Yes, I suspect it would have to involve retention or one of those third party trades to take the cap space.

So it will likely cost players or draft picks more than we have/want to give up.

I do think B Schenn could be a useful piece at the right price, and I like that he has a couple more years term. But again that probably adds to the price.

I just like the brothers on the team narrative. Though we did try it with the Nylanders I suppose.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
The Brayden Schenn stuff sucks because I think he'd actually be a pretty solid fit for the team and what we need but the talk about his acquisition cost is insane.
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Absolutely nuts considering the cap hit vs his performance. Would need double retention to make it at all palatable, and even then…
 
bustaheims said:
Absolutely nuts considering the cap hit vs his performance. Would need double retention to make it at all palatable, and even then…
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50% would cost you $3.25m, though the term of another 3 years gives me pause, but he's been pretty injury free and he's a team captain. Kerfoot's $3.5m himself.

Hell, Brandon Tanev is paid $3.5m a year, produces less (and not a centre), and Yanni Gourde makes $5.1m with worse numbers than Schenn.
 
Just taking a look at SJS roster...remember when people were questioning the waiving of Goodrow? He's got 4g and 7 points in 54 games getting 13:58 TOI.

Also, our boy Liljegren has only mustered up 4 goals and 9 points in 44 games this season...he is however skating 18:04 TOI, which is good for 8th on the team.
 
Frank E said:
50% would cost you $3.25m, though the term of another 3 years gives me pause, but he's been pretty injury free and he's a team captain. Kerfoot's $3.5m himself.

Hell, Brandon Tanev is paid $3.5m a year, produces less (and not a centre), and Yanni Gourde makes $5.1m with worse numbers than Schenn.
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And for what St Louis is rumoured to be asking for, the Leafs would need to be getting a huge bargain, especially with the extra years on the deal.
 
www.sportsnet.ca

32 Thoughts: What will Jets, Capitals do at NHL trade deadline?

One week out from the trade deadline, Elliotte Friedman writes about what he's hearing around the league, plus some takeaways from the 4 Nations Face-Off.
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7. There are four people/assets potential trade partners ask from Toronto: Easton Cowan, Ben Danford, Fraser Minten and their 2026 first-rounder. If they want to do anything significant, they’ll have to decide which of those they’d part with.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1895529390030930155
 
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herman said:
www.sportsnet.ca

32 Thoughts: What will Jets, Capitals do at NHL trade deadline?

One week out from the trade deadline, Elliotte Friedman writes about what he's hearing around the league, plus some takeaways from the 4 Nations Face-Off.
www.sportsnet.ca www.sportsnet.ca
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I wouldn't be super fussed about moving Danford. As much as he seems like a safe bet to play NHL games, his ceiling doesn't seem particularly high. Don't expect him to be much more than a good 3rd pairing/passable 2nd pairing type.

For any of the others, it would need to be a significant piece with term at a good AAV.
 
Zee said:
So the dream of the Schenns, the Tanevs and the Nylanders all in Toronto is dead?
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I think cap and roster constraints will probably make it tough to go after Brandon Tanev at the deadline, but he's still someone I could certainly see the Leafs going after in the offseason.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1897015979097645390

I've seen this mentioned from fans and such a number of times and honestly I wouldn't really hate it. Risto has improved quite a bit since his Buffalo days and fits the archetype of a Rielly partner (plus he can actually skate which guys like Schenn and Lyubushkin couldn't). The price for that, especially if retention would be required somewhere, would obviously be significant though.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1897015979097645390

I've seen this mentioned from fans and such a number of times and honestly I wouldn't really hate it. Risto has improved quite a bit since his Buffalo days and fits the archetype of a Rielly partner (plus he can actually skate which guys like Schenn and Lyubushkin couldn't). The price for that, especially if retention would be required somewhere, would obviously be significant though.
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Especially considering neither of them are pending UFAs. Laughton has another year on his deal. Risto has two.

Lots to consider to make this work. Would need to send future money back the other way, I would imagine.
 
Leafs send: Domi, Kampf, *futures*.

Domi and Kampf are obviously cap dumps, but I can also see them as filling some valuable-ish roles with a rebuilding Flyers team especially as they're trading away some players.

Leaving *futures* kind of vague because I don't know exactly how much would be required. Minten gets included here without question obviously, Flyers seem to like him. How much else is required for Risto is tough to project, and also somewhat dependent on how much retention we get in the deal whether that's on him or Laughton. Is that a 1st round pick or Danford worthy or a couple of things from the next level (Robertson?). Again I think that's up for debate. My guess would be likely the 2026 1st rounder, especially if retention is involved. Would love to have that pushed to 2027 instead though of course.

Flyers send: Laughton, Ristolainen, and Ryan Ellis.

Ellis is a bit of a wild card in this one. He's LTIRetired and has 2 more years left on his deal at a $6.25mil AAV. The Flyers are not and likely won't be for awhile a cap-ceiling team so they haven't even really played Ellis on LTIR and he's typically just been burning a whole in their cap numbers. There was a report a couple of years ago when he first went on LTIR that Philly wanted to trade him but obviously that hasn't happened yet. Leafs are of course no stranger to being in LTIR and while a part of me would love to go through a season without needing that it just feels like almost a certainty that the team will be in there for at least good portions of a full season whether they like it or not anyway. So Leafs would be happy to take that deal if Philly doesn't make too much of a fuss about taking Domi and Kampf.

That leaves a 23-man roster looking like:

Knies-Matthews-Marner
McMann-Tavares-Nylander
Robertson-Laughton-Jarnkrok
Lorentz-Holmberg-Dewar
Pacioretty

Rielly-Risto
McCabe-Tanev
OEL-Timmins
Benoit-Myers

Stolarz
Woll

Puckpedia shows about $75k in cap space with Reaves sent down to the Marlies until playoffs. That's with absolutely no retention on Philly's end so if they retain about $1mil on Risto or Laughton then Reaves could come up immediately post-deadline.
 
Joe S. said:
Kypreos is a blowhard moron. I remember he was yelling at dubas for hanging on to Knies.
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Kypreos is an example of what happens with CTE. And sometimes tries to force his alpha status to supress good commentary from Bourne and McKee.

But in fairness to him, he has great instinct and has made instinctual calls that turned out correct. And he won a Stanley Cup too. Plus he played with a lot of grit.
 
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