Auston Matthews

[Peter D.]

Well, that's the other thing I don't get. So it happens in May and we don't hear about it until literally the day before his scheduled court appearance. Why are we hearing about it now? Did someone at the courthouse recognize Matthews' name? People just randomly searching for famous names in public records?

Because doesn't the fact that we're only hearing about it now kind of indicate that maybe it being discovered wasn't inevitable? Think about all of the people who would have had to have known about this before now from Auston's friends to the Security Guard(and presumably everyone she told) to the Police...and nobody says anything apparently. So...I have no idea how inevitable it is.

It feels like the reason his agent/lawyer didn't tell him to tell the Leafs might be because they didn't think it would come up.

Reading this, and the whole time I'm thinking this sounds eerily similar to the Trudeau controversy.

 

[Kin]

Doesn't that kind of raise another question? People seemed to take the incident report saying that the Security Guard recognized him to mean she knew he was Auston Matthews, star hockey player and millionaire but what if it just meant that she recognized him as Auston Matthews, guy who lives in the building?

 

[Bates]

Is it wrong that I keep wondering why someone with PTSD took a job as a night security guard? This seems like the kind of thing that could have been settled between the two parties with a meeting rather than a courtroom.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Is it wrong that I keep wondering why someone with PTSD took a job as a night security guard? This seems like the kind of thing that could have been settled between the two parties with a meeting rather than a courtroom.

Probably. It is pretty obvious she didn't fear anything as she got out of her car.
My take on this is he messed up and was stupid in his judgement. As for telling the Leafs. I know if it was me, I wouldn't tell my employer. His lawyer probably told him don't worry about it, it'll get squashed or something like that. At the end of the day, it might cost him being the captain this time around but it will be a valuable lesson to him and others. 

 

[Fanatic]

Doesn't that kind of raise another question? People seemed to take the incident report saying that the Security Guard recognized him to mean she knew he was Auston Matthews, star hockey player and millionaire but what if it just meant that she recognized him as Auston Matthews, guy who lives in the building?

YES

 

[Bates]

Is it wrong that I keep wondering why someone with PTSD took a job as a night security guard? This seems like the kind of thing that could have been settled between the two parties with a meeting rather than a courtroom.

Probably. It is pretty obvious she didn't fear anything as she got out of her car.
My take on this is he messed up and was stupid in his judgement. As for telling the Leafs. I know if it was me, I wouldn't tell my employer. His lawyer probably told him don't worry about it, it'll get squashed or something like that. At the end of the day, it might cost him being the captain this time around but it will be a valuable lesson to him and others.

I'm kinda thinking of it in regards to why this has become a case? According to her statement she got out and confronted the group. I'm no expert but that does not seem like a situation someone who suffers from severe PTSD would put themselves into. I can't help but wonder if there is another motive in the sue happy USA. Hopefully they can get an amicable resolution and move forward better for it.

 

[Kin]

Is it wrong that I keep wondering why someone with PTSD took a job as a night security guard?

It is strange. Between America's excellent public healthcare system, first rate record in taking care of their veterans and generous welfare system you'd assume she'd be able to not worry about working if it meant doing something that would be difficult for her.

 

[Bates]

Is it wrong that I keep wondering why someone with PTSD took a job as a night security guard?

It is strange. Between America's excellent public healthcare system, first rate record in taking care of their veterans and generous welfare system you'd assume she'd be able to not worry about working if it meant doing something that would be difficult for her.

I fear heights, I don't apply for crane operator jobs.  There are plenty of menial wage jobs in Phoenix.

 

[Kin]

I fear heights, I don't apply for crane operator jobs.  There are plenty of menial wage jobs in Phoenix.

Leaving aside the various ways in which that's an incredibly stupid thing to say, PTSD is not a fear of stress or confrontation.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Is it wrong that I keep wondering why someone with PTSD took a job as a night security guard? This seems like the kind of thing that could have been settled between the two parties with a meeting rather than a courtroom.

Probably. It is pretty obvious she didn't fear anything as she got out of her car.
My take on this is he messed up and was stupid in his judgement. As for telling the Leafs. I know if it was me, I wouldn't tell my employer. His lawyer probably told him don't worry about it, it'll get squashed or something like that. At the end of the day, it might cost him being the captain this time around but it will be a valuable lesson to him and others.

I'm kinda thinking of it in regards to why this has become a case? According to her statement she got out and confronted the group. I'm no expert but that does not seem like a situation someone who suffers from severe PTSD would put themselves into. I can't help but wonder if there is another motive in the sue happy USA. Hopefully they can get an amicable resolution and move forward better for it.

I'm no expert on PTSD either. I'm by no means Bruce Lee nor am I Pee Wee Herman but if a group of guys surrounded my car, I'm not getting out to confront them.. I believe she knew him, dealt with him and then some lawyer got in her ear and here we are. It wouldn't surprise me if the charges get dropped and she gets a payout that we probably won't hear about.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/27/victim-blaming-science-behind-psychology-research

 

[Bates]

I fear heights, I don't apply for crane operator jobs.  There are plenty of menial wage jobs in Phoenix.

Leaving aside the various ways in which that's an incredibly stupid thing to say, PTSD is not a fear of stress or confrontation.

Not interested in a hair splitting afternoon with you. People who go suffer from anything generally try to remove things from their Life that cause such issues. And as a low wage career there would certainly be better options for work which are very plentiful in AZ.  Either that or don't mention your PTSD as that is your issue and not the jackazz rattling your door.

 

[Bates]

Is it wrong that I keep wondering why someone with PTSD took a job as a night security guard? This seems like the kind of thing that could have been settled between the two parties with a meeting rather than a courtroom.

Probably. It is pretty obvious she didn't fear anything as she got out of her car.
My take on this is he messed up and was stupid in his judgement. As for telling the Leafs. I know if it was me, I wouldn't tell my employer. His lawyer probably told him don't worry about it, it'll get squashed or something like that. At the end of the day, it might cost him being the captain this time around but it will be a valuable lesson to him and others.

I'm kinda thinking of it in regards to why this has become a case? According to her statement she got out and confronted the group. I'm no expert but that does not seem like a situation someone who suffers from severe PTSD would put themselves into. I can't help but wonder if there is another motive in the sue happy USA. Hopefully they can get an amicable resolution and move forward better for it.

I'm no expert on PTSD either. I'm by no means Bruce Lee nor am I Pee Wee Herman but if a group of guys surrounded my car, I'm not getting out to confront them.. I believe she knew him, dealt with him and then some lawyer got in her ear and here we are. It wouldn't surprise me if the charges get dropped and she gets a payout that we probably won't here about.

That is kinda what I was getting at.

 

[lamajama]

My 5 cents without knowing more - or complete - details (if we ever truly will)...

It was wrong and it was a stupid immature thing to do 100% no question.

It was fueled by alcohol, being with a group of buddies and probably egging each other on to the point of "hey wouldn't it be funny"
but it's not funny.

Matthews needs to sit down with this women and apologize sincerely and never let it happen again.

I just don't see why this - again this was a WRONG, STUPID, NO EXCUSE thing to do seems to be such a monumental
egregious villainous act.

If this was joe public, I doubt it would even make the news.

As terrifying as this was for the woman (and I'm sure that Matthews can make some reparations - either to a charity or to the woman herself if that's her objective) there was no violence, no threats (again as far as has been reported).

It's Toronto, it's a wealthy high profile individual and he's going to learn a valuable lesson but let's not tar and feather him nor his reputation
for this.

 

[KW Sluggo]

Even though it is a bum rap I could see my way clear to pleading Captain Underpants out to attempted arson.

 

[Guilt Trip]

My 5 cents without knowing more - or complete - details (if we ever truly will)...

It was wrong and it was a stupid immature thing to do 100% no question.

It was fueled by alcohol, being with a group of buddies and probably egging each other on to the point of "hey wouldn't it be funny"
but it's not funny.

Matthews needs to sit down with this women and apologize sincerely and never let it happen again.

I just don't see why this - again this was a WRONG, STUPID, NO EXCUSE thing to do seems to be such a monumental
egregious villainous act.

If this was joe public, I doubt it would even make the news.

As terrifying as this was for the woman (and I'm sure that Matthews can make some reparations - either to a charity or to the woman herself if that's her objective) there was no violence, no threats (again as far as has been reported).

It's Toronto, it's a wealthy high profile individual and he's going to learn a valuable lesson but let's not tar and feather him nor his reputation
for this.

I agree with almost all of it except the part where you said it was terrifying. Getting out of the safety of her car to confront a group of men doesn't seem like a normal reaction for someone who is terrified.

 

[Kin]

Not interested in a hair splitting afternoon with you.

What's it like living in a world where being told that the complex psychological condition you're entirely misrepresenting counts as "hair splitting"?

Seriously, this is tragically misinformed even by your admittedly impressive standards of talking complete nonsense.

 

[Kin]

I agree with almost all of it except the part where you said it was terrifying. Getting out of the safety of her car to confront a group of men doesn't seem like a normal reaction for someone who is terrified.

I wish we had some sort of indication that perhaps this person has a condition by which they deal with stressful situations abnormally.

 

[Bates]

Not interested in a hair splitting afternoon with you.

What's it like living in a world where being told that the complex psychological condition you're entirely misrepresenting counts as "hair splitting"?

Seriously, this is tragically misinformed even by your admittedly impressive standards of talking complete nonsense.

While everyone experiences PTSD differently, there are four main types of symptoms.

Re-experiencing the traumatic event through intrusive memories, flashbacks, nightmares, or intense mental or physical reactions when reminded of the trauma.

Avoidance and numbing, such as avoiding anything that reminds you of the trauma, being unable to remember aspects of the ordeal, a loss of interest in activities and life in general, feeling emotionally numb and detached from others and a sense of a limited future.

Hyperarousal, including sleep problems, irritability, hypervigilance (on constant ?red alert?), feeling jumpy or easily startled, angry outbursts, and aggressive, self-destructive, or reckless behavior.

Negative thought and mood changes like feeling alienated and alone, difficulty concentrating or remembering, depression and hopelessness, feeling mistrust and betrayal, and feeling guilt, shame, or self-blame.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I agree with almost all of it except the part where you said it was terrifying. Getting out of the safety of her car to confront a group of men doesn't seem like a normal reaction for someone who is terrified.

I wish we had some sort of indication that perhaps this person has a condition by which they deal with stressful situations abnormally.

My mistake, I should have added in, maybe this is how someone with PTSD reacts with a question mark.