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COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason

Wouldn't be stunned if this turned out to be a Vlasic-type deal where he's certainly worth it for a little while because of how good he is defensively but if his defensive play even dips a little bit that combined with a non-existent offensive game could make the back half of the deal a little rough.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Wouldn't be stunned if this turned out to be a Vlasic-type deal where he's certainly worth it for a little while because of how good he is defensively but if his defensive play even dips a little bit that combined with a non-existent offensive game could make the back half of the deal a little rough.

Pretty nice little top 4 there they've got.  Spurgeon, Suter, Brodin, Dumba.

Their offense is a different story.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Wouldn't be stunned if this turned out to be a Vlasic-type deal where he's certainly worth it for a little while because of how good he is defensively but if his defensive play even dips a little bit that combined with a non-existent offensive game could make the back half of the deal a little rough.

Is this not the Minnesota Wild Way?

Their capsheet is so weird. Definitely going 8-1 for the expansion draft? Or trading away something useful for Seattle soft-protect their youngest top-4 defenseman?
 
herman said:
Is this not the Minnesota Wild Way?

Their capsheet is so weird. Definitely going 8-1 for the expansion draft? Or trading away something useful for Seattle soft-protect their youngest top-4 defenseman?

Part of me wonders if they'll try to get Suter to waive his NMC so they can expose him. They have leaned pretty heavily on him, but he'll be 36 by the time the expansion draft rolls around and carries a large cap hit.

That being said, they don't have a ton they really need to protect upfront, so, going 8-1 is probably the more likely option.
 
I am just reminding myself now that Fletcher traded Alex Tuch to protect that D core, and had Vegas pick Eric Haula.
 
bustaheims said:
That being said, they don't have a ton they really need to protect upfront, so, going 8-1 is probably the more likely option.

Even if you expect them to sign a top-6 forward like say Hoffman this offseason, they could still probably go the 8-1 protection route and the best forward exposed would be like... Luke Kunin? Maybe Jordan Greenway? I don't think they're really sweating that one. Still think Dumba gets traded by then though.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Even if you expect them to sign a top-6 forward like say Hoffman this offseason, they could still probably go the 8-1 protection route and the best forward exposed would be like... Luke Kunin? Maybe Jordan Greenway? I don't think they're really sweating that one. Still think Dumba gets traded by then though.

Yeah. They don't have a clear 4th forward to protect. They really only have one forward that they'd need to protect from a talent and age POV. Parise and Zuccarello are useful forwards, but with their age and cap hits, if they didn't have NMCs, I'd consider exposing them just to be rid of their contracts.
 
bustaheims said:
Yeah. They don't have a clear 4th forward to protect. They really only have one forward that they'd need to protect from a talent and age POV. Parise and Zuccarello are useful forwards, but with their age and cap hits, if they didn't have NMCs, I'd consider exposing them just to be rid of their contracts.

Oh I imagine Guerin would happily get out of either of those contracts if he could. I would guess even if he could expose them Seattle wouldn't touch Parise. Maybe they consider Zuccarello but only if he has a big season in 20/21.

Minnesota's really got themselves in bad shape up front.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1305943947169148929

Projecting fans back in the stands in 3 years, eh?

It makes sense for the owner to want to wait until later in the contract to pay the big bucks considering the financial situation right now, but that also benefits Brodin quite a bit because of how escrow is capped for the few years, right?

20/21: 20%
21/22: 14-18%
22/23: 14-18%
23/24: 10%
24/25: 6%

It's not surprise the big bucks kick in when escrow starts to take the biggest decrease.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/habslinks/status/1305972472244768769
Praise be

Eh, I'm starting to think that Dubas might end up with the same legacy as Chayka...so I'm not going to be too critical of the habs until it doesn't work.  I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.

 
Frycer14 said:
Frank E said:
I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.

Heh, this is true. I wonder how some of the comments on that trade have aged.
I'm betting the haven't aged well  That Weber contract was horrible. Might still be for Nashville if Weber retires lol. I didn't see PK's game falling off the cliff like it has.
 
Guilt Trip said:
I'm betting the haven't aged well  That Weber contract was horrible. Might still be for Nashville if Weber retires lol. I didn't see PK's game falling off the cliff like it has.

A potentially significant injury didn't help much. Without that, Subban would probably still be one of the best blue liners in the league.

Playing for a completely inept Devils team wasn't exactly great for him, either. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him bounce back if the Devils get their game together or if he moves to a new team.
 
Frank E said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/habslinks/status/1305972472244768769
Praise be

Eh, I'm starting to think that Dubas might end up with the same legacy as Chayka...so I'm not going to be too critical of the habs until it doesn't work.  I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.
You mean testing players pre combine? Sorry, but Chayka in retrospect looks like a bit of an idiot. I think Dubas will course correct.
 
Frycer14 said:
Frank E said:
I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.

Heh, this is true. I wonder how some of the comments on that trade have aged.
Just because the outcome was unfavorable doesn't mean the evaluation process was flawed necessarily. Nobody expected Subban to fall off a cliff and clearly Weber is defying the normal aging curve.
 
Bender said:
Frank E said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/habslinks/status/1305972472244768769
Praise be

Eh, I'm starting to think that Dubas might end up with the same legacy as Chayka...so I'm not going to be too critical of the habs until it doesn't work.  I still remember how crazy some here thought they were for trading Subban.
You mean testing players pre combine? Sorry, but Chayka in retrospect looks like a bit of an idiot. I think Dubas will course correct.

Obviously Dubas hasn't necessarily done anything with the Leafs either.  It's not like our top players were drafted with depth picks to come out of nowhere but it is interesting how Chayka got a reputation for being so awesome while not actually doing anything.

Arizona has had four seasons with Chayka as the GM.  They finished with 70 points, 70 points, 86 points and 74 points (abbreviated season).  The only year his team "made" the playoffs was in a season where they had the 22nd best record in the league.  He accomplished nothing out of the way of any media scrutiny because noone cares about the team.
 
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