Dubois to WPG for Laine and Roslovic
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Britishbulldog
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herman said:
I was wondering if either team would flip the players but I don't think they would unless forced. Winnipeg has been reported to be looking for a solid #2 center for a while and just got a perfect 22 year old one. Laine has the chance to be a star player with an organization containing a couple of respected countrymen.
I mean anything could happen but I think it would be highly unlikely
Guilt Trip
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I don't see Wpg flipping Dubois.Britishbulldog said:
bustaheims
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Guilt Trip said:
Me neither. I suspect Dubois will do better in Winnipeg than Laine does in Columbus. It would not shock me to see Laine on the move again in the next couple seasons, but suspect Dubois is a Jet for the forceable future.
Heroic Shrimp
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https://twitter.com/TSNHockey/status/1353057218191478784
Ummm....
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I clicked that link and nothing loaded, and you know what, that's probably for the best.
azzurri63 said:
Don't that the narrative quite applies here...players with no arb rights have no option not to sign contracts. Its either sign with the team or don't play.
Roslovic took the latter, but Laine and Dubois had to sign for the sake of their careers and signed short term deals. Doesn't mean they were happy, and they said as much
bustaheims
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Bullfrog said:
Yeah. Other than Skinner signing his contract as a UFA, he might be the best comparable - high scoring winger who doesn?t provide much else. Laine is a more prolific scorer - he can be counted on for 30+, where as Skinner is much less consistent year to year - and younger, so, he might actually live up to the contract. It would still be a big risk, and I don?t think I?d be confident giving him that big a contract for that many seasons.
L K said:
I think people automatically seeing rentaining as a "loss" is misguided. GMs view it as a way to help make deals happen. I don't think this deal can be completed without retention. The actual dollar impact of eating salary on a 1 year deal isn't really a big deal and has no long term cap impact. Rentention removed the cap impact of swapping Laine and Dubois, 5M in and 5M out for both teams.
From Columbus' point of view, they couldn't fit Laine in at the full clip so retenion was necessary.
From Winnipeg's POV, they have to trade Laine at some point and if Columbus was ready to move Dubois now, retention was the only way the deal was getting done. If they refuse and Columbus moves on then Winnipeg misses out on Dubois.
IMO, accepting that 1 year of rentention that has no long term effect is the obvious choice over missing out on a player they covet. Wait until this summer and maybe there isn't a player they like as much as Dubois available to them.
Kin
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Feels to me like if a team's leadership is unable to figure out how to fit in a mercurial personality it's a failure on their part regardless. Lots of teams have won with guys who were labelled "difficult" elsewhere. It's not easy, sure, but it is one of the challenges of good leadership.
bustaheims
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Nik said:
Yeah. We're not talking a Sean Avery level of disruptiveness here. There were never serious public issue with Laine - maybe the Fortnite stuff, but that was generally seen as amusing more than anything else. This was basically entirely an internal personality conflict, and that's absolutely on team leadership to do a better job with.