Lou Lamoriello named Leafs General Manager

[CarltonTheBear]

He compares bringing in Lou to the time when they brought in Fletcher to keep the seat warm.  He raises the point that running with Fletcher didn't go so well.

I like Siegel, but that's a pretty weak comparison really.

Cliff was GM for 6 months before Burke was hired, Lou has a 3-year contract.

Cliff's role as GM was to keep the seat warm while MLSE looked for another GM (aka patiently waited for Burke to leave Anaheim). Lou's role as GM will be partly to mentor the inexperienced Leafs front office.

Cliff's mandate was to clean house to make it easier for the future incoming GM to put in place his plan. Lou's mandate will be to follow the pre-existing plan that Shanahan & co. have already put in place.

Cliff was basically the sole voice in the Leafs front office and had total control more or less. Again, Lou's coming into a situation with a staff already put in place and will have to work within that staff when it comes to decision making.

Cliff served as a GM of a NHL team for just a single season in the decade prior to becoming the Leafs intern GM, that's obviously not the case with Lou.

So really, the only common ground is that they're both old.

 

[draeko17]

He compares bringing in Lou to the time when they brought in Fletcher to keep the seat warm.  He raises the point that running with Fletcher didn't go so well.

I like Siegel, but that's a pretty weak comparison really.

Cliff was GM for 6 months before Burke was hired, Lou has a 3-year contract.

Cliff's role as GM was to keep the seat warm while MLSE looked for another GM (aka patiently waited for Burke to leave Anaheim). Lou's role as GM will be partly to mentor the inexperienced Leafs front office.

Cliff's mandate was to clean house to make it easier for the future incoming GM to put in place his plan. Lou's mandate will be to follow the pre-existing plan that Shanahan & co. have already put in place.

Cliff was basically the sole voice in the Leafs front office and had total control more or less. Again, Lou's coming into a situation with a staff already put in place and will have to work within that staff when it comes to decision making.

Cliff served as a GM of a NHL team for just a single season in the decade prior to becoming the Leafs intern GM, that's obviously not the case with Lou.

So really, the only common ground is that they're both old.

All I can say about that is thank goodness!

 

[nutman]

Are you guys joking or are there fans out there that think like they don't know the sport. Lou will steer the leafs the way we need it to go. imop he will teach the young management the way, this is the greatest move they could have done. I see nothing but climbing for the next few yrs or more. as fors the morrons in the press that come up with these thoughts, I think there grasping at straws will only get worse with the new hush hush management.

 

[Kin]

Man. If only Leafs ownership had some sort of pull with the media.

 

[moon111]

If the coaching and management are a 'team' that work together, I think Lou will fit in nicely.  If it becomes his way or the highway... then I see a problem.  You never know what his mandate with New Jersey was either.  If they were pushing him for playoff revenue over championships, then maybe you can understand the directions he was taking.

 

[Bullfrog]

I won't lie, this move makes me a little nervous. It feels a bit like the balance of power has shifted a bit. I like their current management model. As long as he's fully on board with a patient rebuild, it should be ok.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Steve Simmons said this on The Reporters so hopefully he actually was told it by someone in the know and not by his hotdog sources:

http://twitter.com/Hope_Smoke/status/625310381586653185

 

[herman]

Man. If only Leafs ownership had some sort of pull with the media.

It makes for a very interesting dynamic, doesn't it?

Steve Simmons said this on The Reporters so hopefully he actually was told it by someone in the know and not by his hotdog sources:

http://twitter.com/Hope_Smoke/status/625310381586653185

Lamoriello says it himself here: http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2015/07/26/brendan-shanahan-and-lou-lamoriellos-in-depth-interview-with-bob-mccown/

 

[hockeyfan1]

This is the part I liked best from Lamoriello  interview:
Re: http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2015/07/26/brendan-shanahan-and-lou-lamoriellos-in-depth-interview-with-bob-mccown/

"... Creating something where that logo is more important than that name on the back of the shirt. That sounds like a mouthful, but there are little things that you find out in people when that happens. If you look over a lot of the successful teams, and we?ve been very fortunate with some of the players that have their names on the Cups; you don?t see them in any scoring, but without them you would not have won. Everybody recognizes that. People have to realize that, no matter what their role is in a team, they?re just as important as the so-called most talented player. And the most talented player has to recognize he can?t have any success without the other person. That?s what we have to try to create..."

 

[Leaflifer]

What caught my eye in the above article was that Larry T talked to Lou before the hiring.

It's reassuring knowing we have a commitment from ownership here.

Whatever Larry said, Lou was in agreement.

 

[lc9]

I'm not excited about this hire as I'm not sold on Lou's body of work, but I'm not gonna panic and say we're doomed or screwed.  We'll have to just wait and see how things play out.

Hopefully this means we'll start shipping some players out.

You're right, stanley cups are awful. 

 

[lc9]

LL:  "Defense wins championships.  Offense wins games."

That's awesome.

and also contradictory.

That is what makes a memorable quote.

 

[Kin]

Yeah, keep in mind most maxims like that are largely meaningless. It's like the "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing" from Vince Lombardi. If you reversed it, it would more or less mean the exact same thing. Nonsense disguised as fortune cookie wisdom.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

LL:  "Defense wins championships.  Offense wins games."

That's awesome.

and also contradictory.

That is what makes a memorable quote.

I don't get why it's contradictory.

I believe he's stating that offense may hide a bad team for a while and get you some wins but a good defense can carry a team for the entire season. Just me though.

 

[Highlander]

I don't think its contradictory either. Offense wins games in the season, but you need the defense to win the championships. Playoff hockey is a whole level of intensity over the main season.

 

[Bullfrog]

LL:  "Defense wins championships.  Offense wins games."

That's awesome.

and also contradictory.

That is what makes a memorable quote.

I don't get why it's contradictory.

I believe he's stating that offense may hide a bad team for a while and get you some wins but a good defense can carry a team for the entire season. Just me though.

Defense can hide a bad team for a while and get you some wins but a good offense can carry a team for the entire season.

 

[Kin]

I don't get why it's contradictory.

I believe he's stating that offense may hide a bad team for a while and get you some wins but a good defense can carry a team for the entire season. Just me though.

Well, it's contradictory because you win championships by virtue of winning games. So on it's most elemental level it's, if not contradictory, gibberish.

On an actual intellectual level, it still largely is. Teams that win championships tend to be good at both things but there are just as many teams who've won a cup with a so-so defense and great offense as the reverse. People like to forget this now but some of those Devils teams were pretty good at putting the puck in the net.

 

[Highlander]

Ya back when Dave Clarkson could play.. what the heck happened to him?

 

[Kin]

Ya back when Dave Clarkson could play.. what the heck happened to him?

I don't want to break this to you but Clarkson wasn't with the Devils when they won championships.

 

[Joe S.]

LL:  "Defense wins championships.  Offense wins games."

That's awesome.

Since 1995.