2023-24 General Trades & Signings

[CarltonTheBear]

One guy who's name hasn't been thrown around much is Bogosian. I was pretty surprised that Tampa gave him away early this season because his numbers at the time were pretty decent. And in Minnesota they've been fine too. Obviously not the defensive stalwart that Tanev is but he's held his own. And prior to a minor injury recently he was playing minutes with Brodin which is noteworthy.

Again not exactly the ideal trade candidate but as far as cost/performance goes I'd probably take him over a lot of the other options available. Perhaps with a physical bottom-6 forward like Brandon Duhaime or Maroon added in as well.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Not saying he's the guy the Leafs should target because he's not a top 4 guy, but Peeke averages 1:27/gm Pking. He's on the 2nd pairing of PKing D men after Provorov and Gudbranson. Last year he lead the team in short handed minutes. He's only played 20 games this season. Leads the team in blocked shots per 60 and leads the D men in hits per 60. He has 40 hits in 20 games. He's 25, signed for 2 more years at 2.75M.

I thought Peeke could be a reasonable trade target before this season started, but I'm not sure how anyone could touch that contract after how he's performed this season. Yeah Columbus is a tire fire and all that but he's being easily outperformed by Erik Gudbranson even. Like maybe with 50% retention and a minimal return I'd consider it, but that's about it right now. He's likely headed toward a buyout this season otherwise.

 

[louisstamos]

Two guys who might be a good fit and had cheap are Troy Stetcher and Colin Miller.  Both are RHD and having good years in Arizona and New Jersey respectively.  Stetcher is a bit younger (29 vs 31) but also smaller (5'10" vs 6'1").  Arizona is out of it and probably willing to sell - New Jersey is a bit tougher to gauge.  They're in ninth, although just took on the salary in the Tanev deal.  Maybe they do a Timmins for Miller deal straight up to make it work salary wise, but also get a player who can play back?

 

[cw]

One guy who's name hasn't been thrown around much is Bogosian. I was pretty surprised that Tampa gave him away early this season because his numbers at the time were pretty decent. And in Minnesota they've been fine too. Obviously not the defensive stalwart that Tanev is but he's held his own. And prior to a minor injury recently he was playing minutes with Brodin which is noteworthy.

Again not exactly the ideal trade candidate but as far as cost/performance goes I'd probably take him over a lot of the other options available. Perhaps with a physical bottom-6 forward like Brandon Duhaime or Maroon added in as well.

"I'd probably take him over a lot of the other options available."

Me too

Definitely still physical. Can help some on the PK. Wouldn't cost a talent fortune.

Problem is, the Wild have been playing decently and are still in the hunt for a wild card berth.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Problem is, the Wild have been playing decently and are still in the hunt for a wild card berth.

They're 11th in the conference and on pace for 6 less points than the current 8th place team. At this point in the season they'll need a bit of a miracle.

 

[bustaheims]

Problem is, the Wild have been playing decently and are still in the hunt for a wild card berth.

They're 11th in the conference and on pace for 6 less points than the current 8th place team. At this point in the season they'll need a bit of a miracle.

Yeah. Having to leapfrog 3 teams at this point in the season and make up that many points is a tall order. If they don't win all their games between now and the deadline, they should go full sell on any pending UFAs (other than Fleury, apparently).

 

[cw]

Problem is, the Wild have been playing decently and are still in the hunt for a wild card berth.

They're 11th in the conference and on pace for 6 less points than the current 8th place team. At this point in the season they'll need a bit of a miracle.

Yeah. Having to leapfrog 3 teams at this point in the season and make up that many points is a tall order. If they don't win all their games between now and the deadline, they should go full sell on any pending UFAs (other than Fleury, apparently).

They play the Preds (the 8th place team) tonight.
A regulation win has them 4 pts behind with a game in hand and over 20 games to go.
At a glance, they seem to have slightly easier opponents the rest of the way.
After the Preds, they have the Sharks, Coyotes & Blues before the deadline.
Preds have Avs, Habs & Sabres before the deadline.

I presume they would want the playoff games if they can get them.

Flames have begun their fire sale so I do not expect them to keep pace.
I think the Wild play all but the Flames in the wild card pack so they probably control their destiny.
Minnesota is playing the best win% hockey over the last 1ten: .750

OTH if they lose to the Preds in regulation tonight, that might be it.

Odds are against them but I think it is a little too early to throw in the towel.
They may have to wait to see where they are March 7th - if they haven't fallen away before then.

 

[cw]

Problem is, the Wild have been playing decently and are still in the hunt for a wild card berth.

They're 11th in the conference and on pace for 6 less points than the current 8th place team. At this point in the season they'll need a bit of a miracle.

Yeah. Having to leapfrog 3 teams at this point in the season and make up that many points is a tall order. If they don't win all their games between now and the deadline, they should go full sell on any pending UFAs (other than Fleury, apparently).

They play the Preds (the 8th place team) tonight.
A regulation win has them 4 pts behind with a game in hand and over 20 games to go.
At a glance, they seem to have slightly easier opponents the rest of the way.
After the Preds, they have the Sharks, Coyotes & Blues before the deadline.
Preds have Avs, Habs & Sabres before the deadline.

I presume they would want the playoff games if they can get them.

Flames have begun their fire sale so I do not expect them to keep pace.
I think the Wild play all but the Flames in the wild card pack so they probably control their destiny.
Minnesota is playing the best win% hockey over the last 1ten: .750

OTH if they lose to the Preds in regulation tonight, that might be it.

Odds are against them but I think it is a little too early to throw in the towel.
They may have to wait to see where they are March 7th - if they haven't fallen away before then.

"OTH if they lose to the Preds in regulation tonight, that might be it."

They got killed 6-1 in a game they really needed.

 

[bustaheims]

Problem is, the Wild have been playing decently and are still in the hunt for a wild card berth.

They're 11th in the conference and on pace for 6 less points than the current 8th place team. At this point in the season they'll need a bit of a miracle.

Yeah. Having to leapfrog 3 teams at this point in the season and make up that many points is a tall order. If they don't win all their games between now and the deadline, they should go full sell on any pending UFAs (other than Fleury, apparently).

They play the Preds (the 8th place team) tonight.
A regulation win has them 4 pts behind with a game in hand and over 20 games to go.
At a glance, they seem to have slightly easier opponents the rest of the way.
After the Preds, they have the Sharks, Coyotes & Blues before the deadline.
Preds have Avs, Habs & Sabres before the deadline.

I presume they would want the playoff games if they can get them.

Flames have begun their fire sale so I do not expect them to keep pace.
I think the Wild play all but the Flames in the wild card pack so they probably control their destiny.
Minnesota is playing the best win% hockey over the last 1ten: .750

OTH if they lose to the Preds in regulation tonight, that might be it.

Odds are against them but I think it is a little too early to throw in the towel.
They may have to wait to see where they are March 7th - if they haven't fallen away before then.

"OTH if they lose to the Preds in regulation tonight, that might be it."

They got killed 6-1 in a game they really needed.

Like I said, if they don't win all their games between now and the deadline...

 

[cw]

Problem is, the Wild have been playing decently and are still in the hunt for a wild card berth.

They're 11th in the conference and on pace for 6 less points than the current 8th place team. At this point in the season they'll need a bit of a miracle.

Yeah. Having to leapfrog 3 teams at this point in the season and make up that many points is a tall order. If they don't win all their games between now and the deadline, they should go full sell on any pending UFAs (other than Fleury, apparently).

They play the Preds (the 8th place team) tonight.
A regulation win has them 4 pts behind with a game in hand and over 20 games to go.
At a glance, they seem to have slightly easier opponents the rest of the way.
After the Preds, they have the Sharks, Coyotes & Blues before the deadline.
Preds have Avs, Habs & Sabres before the deadline.

I presume they would want the playoff games if they can get them.

Flames have begun their fire sale so I do not expect them to keep pace.
I think the Wild play all but the Flames in the wild card pack so they probably control their destiny.
Minnesota is playing the best win% hockey over the last 1ten: .750

OTH if they lose to the Preds in regulation tonight, that might be it.

Odds are against them but I think it is a little too early to throw in the towel.
They may have to wait to see where they are March 7th - if they haven't fallen away before then.

"OTH if they lose to the Preds in regulation tonight, that might be it."

They got killed 6-1 in a game they really needed.

Like I said, if they don't win all their games between now and the deadline...

If the outcome of that game was reversed and the Wild today were 4 pts back with a game in hand and 20+ games to play while playing .750+ hockey over their last 10 games, would you immediately have a fire sale?

The question is almost rhetorical.

I sure wouldn't.

 

[bustaheims]

https://x.com/darrendreger/status/1765152360760844488

 

[dappleganger]

Good move for the Knights.

 

[cw]

https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1765152360760844488

https://twitter.com/GoldenKnights/status/1765162563602624896

50% retained

 

[cw]

TSN :Oilers' Gagner headlines group of players on waivers

Sam Gagner
Guillaume Brisebois
Vinni Lettieri
Jacob Lucchini
Max Comtois

 

[herman]

https://x.com/capitals/status/1765387831986278498

 

[bustaheims]

Big commitment for him, considering he hasn't really shown a ton of growth. Offensively, he's on pace for around 30 points, and defensively he's been okay - not bad, but not really a needle mover, either. He's basically solidifying himself as a pretty standard 2nd pairing type.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

This contract basically just mimics my feelings on Sandin at the end of his time here: it feels fine I guess but I wouldn't want it on the Leafs.

If you factor in who the pick was used on and what Sandin's done as a Cap my feelings surrounding that trade have only improved over the last year.

 

[Bender]

This contract basically just mimics my feelings on Sandin at the end of his time here: it feels fine I guess but I wouldn't want it on the Leafs.

If you factor in who the pick was used on and what Sandin's done as a Cap my feelings surrounding that trade have only improved over the last year.

I definitely wouldn't want that cap hit, good lord.

 

[bustaheims]

This contract basically just mimics my feelings on Sandin at the end of his time here: it feels fine I guess but I wouldn't want it on the Leafs.

If you factor in who the pick was used on and what Sandin's done as a Cap my feelings surrounding that trade have only improved over the last year.

I see things similarly. At the time, I thought the deal was basically maximizing Sandin's trade value and getting Cowan out of the pick has only cemented that for me. While he's obviously still young and could improve, where he's been at this season is basically near where I expect him to be for most of his career - a good but not great second pairing type guy. At this price point, he's basically expect to be the top guy on that pair, and I'm not convinced he's there yet, but that probably is his true ceiling. Like you, I think the contract is fine (or, at least, will turn out fine as the cap rises), but it's not one I'd be happy for the Leafs to have signed.

 

[cw]

https://twitter.com/capitals/status/1765387831986278498

Good for him.

He's 20th in the league in ES ice time/game.
His coach likes him in ES situations.
He's getting some PP ice time but also no PK

That is more dough than I thought he would get.
I do not see his talent in the Leafs top 4 though I suspect he'd average fitting in a teams top 4 around the league.
Leafs needed 2 things he isn't: PK & physical

I liked him. I'm happy for him.

One concern I might have is if this deal will affect Liljegren's RFA deal ..
I had not budgeted that high for next season.