Nonis using depth to go shopping....
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maplesyrup
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RedLeaf said:
That works... Though like I said, I'd want to acquire the #9 too... just because.
bustaheims
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SGT said:If the Jets feel they can do better than #5, MacArthur and one of our top 3 prospects for Kane and #9, well, all the power to them. That's probably where I'd feel comfortable.
Well, my guess is they'd feel they can acquire a package of similar value without having to include their 1st round pick, and, they'd probably be right.
Probably a draft night deal. Let's say #5 plus Kadri/Schenn.
If they pick a forward at 5 (say, Forsberg or Grigo or Gally) then then get Schenn.
If they pick a dman at 5 (say, Murray, Dumba, etc) then they get Kadri.
Make sense? Do we do it? Do they?
I still feel like they would want something a little more certain than, for example, Murray and Kadri. Though that's a decent package for Kane I think they could get a more enticing player elsewhere.'
Edit: Also, the Kessel template was two firsts and a 2nd so I guess keep something like that in mind.
If they pick a forward at 5 (say, Forsberg or Grigo or Gally) then then get Schenn.
If they pick a dman at 5 (say, Murray, Dumba, etc) then they get Kadri.
Make sense? Do we do it? Do they?
I still feel like they would want something a little more certain than, for example, Murray and Kadri. Though that's a decent package for Kane I think they could get a more enticing player elsewhere.'
Edit: Also, the Kessel template was two firsts and a 2nd so I guess keep something like that in mind.
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Erndog said:
Well. Kadri or Schenn & the #5 are your 2 firsts. Would the Leafs also need to throw in their 2nd rounder? Perhaps. Still, we're talking about a future superstar, who has the desired size, toughness and grit Burke & co. are looking for.
BTW. Where are you guys seeing anything on Kane being unhappy in the Peg?
bustaheims
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RedLeaf said:
It's just a rumour, like the same ones we see just about every summer when a higher profile RFA hasn't signed an extension leading up to the draft. I wouldn't put a lot of stock into it.
Also, I'm not sure I see Kane as a future superstar. He's a very good player and and an asset that every team in the league would love to have, but, I don't see him reaching that elite level.
Redleaf
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We can wrack our brains out trying to figure out what Burke can and will do at the draft and free agency, but I truly believe that Luongo is in the crosshairs, and will be a Leaf next season. Other than that it's a crap shoot as to what the plans are and what will unfold. As I've said before, this has the potential to be a very big summer for the Leafs. Burke has been busy stockpiling the cupboard the past few years and finally has enough ammunition to pull the trigger on a deal or two and bring in some high end talent. Needless to say, Im looking forward to watching the draft on Friday!
BlueWhiteBlood
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Personally, I think Justin Shultz is more realistic than Luongo, but not by much. I also think Roberto will be a Leaf, whether I'm all in on that or not. So, I'm just trying to get myself accustom to it now, but I'm just hoping that we don't give up too much for him.
Redleaf
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BlueWhiteBlood said:
Yeah. I dont want to start pairing up the D for next season just yet but the Shultz situation is pretty intriguing. I wouldn't say Shultz alone shores up the defence, but if Luongo is between the pipes, and he's joins the D it should make for a pretty solid back end. If we add a player like Dumba, then we would potentially be set for years to come. Of course all indications point to Burke using that pick for a centre, but if they are gone by #5, I would have no problem adding a tough talented D man to our stable. If we can bring our goals against down considerably next season, I think the offense can sort itself out. Plus our plethora of defenseman could yield some talent in trade to augment the forward ranks.
RedLeaf said:
While I would love to add Schultz and see if he's the real deal, I think we'd have too many puck moving defensemen and not enough shutdown types no? Also, we may be rushing Schultz if we bring him into the fold right after signing. Unless he can pull another Gardiner, then I see him in the AHL.
If we had him in the lineup, it'd be:
Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Schultz - Gardiner
Liles - Franson/Komi/Schenn
Which isn't bad, but we need a real shutdown pair and I was hoping to see what Holzer had to offer. Granted, it does free us up to move Liles, Franson, or Komi. I'd still like to hold on to Franson because I think he still has more to offer.
Redleaf
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jonlleafs said:
I don't see how having too many puck moving defensemen in your organization is a problem. If it is, it's a problem I can live with, at least in the short term. These guys aren't the easiest players to acquire and their trade value is pretty high. I see a team like Edmonton giving up one of their highly skilled forwards in the right package for the right puck moving d man (especially if they don't select one on Friday). Burke likes to say he builds his teams from the net out. It should be interesting to see how he addresses the back end this offseason,under the assumption he isn't finished building up the defensive core and goaltending yet.
BlueWhiteBlood
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I can almost guarantee that if we still have our 1st rounder this year, it's a forward that gets selected with it.
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RedLeaf said:
I'd bet on a trade-down in that particular situation I think. I know you're suppose to take the BPA, but I have this feeling that Burke would maximize his assets in that situation, because of what he said he was contemplating this draft around leaning towards picking position.
moon111 said:
It is indeed hockey media suicide and no one on the Couv wants to see Luongo rubbing it in every Saturday night in a TML jersey but the fact is the Canucks have to move a goalie salary and odds are it will be Luongo.
Who needs a goalie and who can take on that kind oc contract.
It is probably a list of one despite Gilli' misgivings as well as those of Burke in both dealing with Gillis and accepting an eternal contract.
I remain unconvinced that this is the best answer for the Leafs but they won't be firing my ass out of town at the end of next year if we don't make the playoffs.
Our GM has quite a flame roasting his ass at the moment and one more year out of the playoffs will make it go thermonuclear.
In that circumstance, most GMs make the short term move.