bustaheims
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Potvin29 said:
If anything, I'd say he'd magnify them.
Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
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If anything, I'd say he'd magnify them.
Chev-boyar-sky
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Potvin29 said:
Not that I watched a lot of MTL but in the games they played against the Leafs last few years I thought he was pretty sound defensively.
hockeyfan1
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Highlander said:
Elementary, Sherlock.
Babcock as Leafs coach is something many will probably hope for, if it'll happen.
hockeyfan1
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Chev-boyar-sky said:
Good d-man or not, didn't he say at the time that he would never play for the Leafs. He sounded quite adamant about that.
I say, Gorges? Bah!
Britishbulldog
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After watching the Leafs so far I see that both Clarkson and Phaneuf are playing better. I would still like to see if the Leafs could create a roster shake up with Winnipeg still and move Phaneuf and under utilized Holland for Kane and Stuart. I would include Winnipeg native Ashton and see if can break through at home. That would give the Leafs 2 scoring good lines and 2 solid bottom lines that have offensive abilities.
So:
Phaneuf, Holland, Ashton
for
Kane, Stuart
I think that is a fair trade to both teams considering all the back stories, etc.
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Evander Kane ($5.250m)
David Booth ($1.100m) / Mike Santorelli ($1.500m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Daniel Winnik ($1.300m) / Leo Komarov ($2.950m) / Brandon Kozun ($0.550m)
Richard Panik ($0.735m) / Matt Frattin ($0.800m)
DEFENSEMEN
Jake Gardiner ($4.050m) / Stephane Robidas ($3.000m)
Morgan Rielly ($0.894m) / Roman Polak ($2.750m)
Mark Stuart ($2.625m) / Cody Franson ($3.300m)
Stuart Percy ($0.863m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
James Reimer ($2.300m)
BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
Tim Gleason ($0.833m)
BURIED
Petri Kontiola ($0.175m)
RETAINED SALARIES (0.29% of upper limit)
Carl Gunnarsson ($0.200m?6.35%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15 crunched using simulation date of 2014-10-19)
SALARY CAP: $68,487,500; BONUSES: $1,062,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $561,667
It would be an adventure on defense since Robidas and Polak really haven't been the veteran stabilizing, hard to play against, defensive defencemen they were advertised to be.
So:
Phaneuf, Holland, Ashton
for
Kane, Stuart
I think that is a fair trade to both teams considering all the back stories, etc.
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Evander Kane ($5.250m)
David Booth ($1.100m) / Mike Santorelli ($1.500m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Daniel Winnik ($1.300m) / Leo Komarov ($2.950m) / Brandon Kozun ($0.550m)
Richard Panik ($0.735m) / Matt Frattin ($0.800m)
DEFENSEMEN
Jake Gardiner ($4.050m) / Stephane Robidas ($3.000m)
Morgan Rielly ($0.894m) / Roman Polak ($2.750m)
Mark Stuart ($2.625m) / Cody Franson ($3.300m)
Stuart Percy ($0.863m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
James Reimer ($2.300m)
BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
Tim Gleason ($0.833m)
BURIED
Petri Kontiola ($0.175m)
RETAINED SALARIES (0.29% of upper limit)
Carl Gunnarsson ($0.200m?6.35%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15 crunched using simulation date of 2014-10-19)
SALARY CAP: $68,487,500; BONUSES: $1,062,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $561,667
It would be an adventure on defense since Robidas and Polak really haven't been the veteran stabilizing, hard to play against, defensive defencemen they were advertised to be.
hockeyfan1
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Always thought Kane would be a good addition to the roster, and as BB posted, a trade of that ilk sounds practical & doable.
Bullfrog said:
Exactly. Trading a defenseman (especially our best one) for a forward (who would be 2nd line player) is not the right move for a team as defensively Unsound and somewhat offensively sound as the Leafs are.
Unless you are thinking that trading Phaneuf is addition by subtraction from a defensive standpoint?
hockeyfan1
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Bullfrog said:
Good question. But I still like Kane to become a Leaf.
Defence, defence, defence, and how to solve it. Sherlock Holmes we need, my dear Watson.
hockeyfan1
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pmrules said:
Point taken. Trading Phaneuf is addition by subtraction only if an equally proficient d-man to take his plan is found.
Britishbulldog
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pmrules said:
I know the hype that Phaneuf carries but I like Rielly and Percy's game more. What does Phaneuf give the Leafs? Big shot...that isn't able to be used that often, a big hit that has taken him out of the play more times than not and a nasty streak that I can get the Leafs for MILLIONS less. I find Phaneuf slow, sometimes lost and doesn't outwork the opposition that often.
For a big, slow dman that gets the puck through from the point, I would much rather see Franson because Franson is also strong like an ox and hits hard without taking himself out of the play.
The only reason I would not trade Phaneuf at this point is because Robidas hasn't been the hard hitting, stabilizing veteran presence the Leafs brass were declaring he would be. If Robidas matched his reputation then I would not even hesitate to move Phaneuf.
GhostofPotvin29
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Britishbulldog said:
You really believe this is all he does? But that description he would be a terrible, likely 7th, D.
Britishbulldog
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Potvin29 said:
Actually a terrible, likely 7th D making $7 million. I am using hyperbole of course in my description but I stand by my opinion that Phaneuf is over paid and over utilized for his skillset.
Highlander
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He would be best playing a max of 18 minutes a night. Funny but when you watch him in person at the rink he seems to be much better than on TV. I just wish he would hit more cause he is a truck when he lays it on.
Kessel Run
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Highlander said:
Dion has been less physical (the big hits) in Toronto than in Calgary because of more responsibility. Those big hits usually take you out of position.
Highlander
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He made a doozy in Tampa at a game I was at a few years back within 3 minites of he opening bell he laced a guy so hard he flew over the bench onto his team-mates, what a hit?
Highlander
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Today Mirlte accredits the big P with leading our offense in terms of possession. A huge turn around
Chev-boyar-sky
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I know the 3rd line has been our best so far this season, but I wonder if a switch between Clarkson and Winnik isn't, at least, worth a look.
Kadri and Lupul have yet to get it going and Clarkson seems to be on his game so far.
Winnik seems like he has the kind of game that would fit well on the 3rd line, though I guess Winnik brings some defensive responsibility to the 2nd line that Clarkson may not.
Tough call.
Kadri and Lupul have yet to get it going and Clarkson seems to be on his game so far.
Winnik seems like he has the kind of game that would fit well on the 3rd line, though I guess Winnik brings some defensive responsibility to the 2nd line that Clarkson may not.
Tough call.
Andy007
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Chev-boyar-sky said:
I don't see Clarkson doing anything noteworthy at all this year, other than simply not being as dreadfully terrible as last season. He still can't pass and he still doesn't get any quality shots on net. Personally I'd rather see him on the 4th line way before he gets promoted to the 2nd (if there was such thing as a 4th line in Toronto).