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COVID Cap Crunch - 2020 Offseason

CarltonTheBear said:
It's crazy to think that Vancouver almost gave up what I imagine would have been at least a 1st rounder and one of their better prospects for OEL a few days ago. Now they give up just a 3rd rounder for a comparable player on a significantly better contract. They really lucked out.

https://twitter.com/racheldoerrie/status/1316827040218218501
Benning was targeted.
 
When a team asks you if you want a top pairing defenceman for just a 3rd rounder you say yes and run. You don't try to get cute and say they should throw in a 5th as well. I'm all for calling Benning a bad GM but I don't get the criticisms on this one.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
When a team asks you if you want a top pairing defenceman for just a 3rd rounder you say yes and run. You don't try to get cute and say they should throw in a 5th as well. I'm all for calling Benning a bad GM but I don't get the criticisms on this one.

100%.  You definitely don't get cute.  That was a gift.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
When a team asks you if you want a top pairing defenceman for just a 3rd rounder you say yes and run. You don't try to get cute and say they should throw in a 5th as well. I'm all for calling Benning a bad GM but I don't get the criticisms on this one.
Some people just like to complain about everything and anything. I think almost every GM that needed D would have jumped at Schmidt for a 3rd. A top 4, 30 point D man that can play both sides, what's not to like?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
When a team asks you if you want a top pairing defenceman for just a 3rd rounder you say yes and run. You don't try to get cute and say they should throw in a 5th as well. I'm all for calling Benning a bad GM but I don't get the criticisms on this one.

Maybe I'm missing something but the quote in the article specifically says other teams would have outbid Benning if they'd gotten the chance. In light of that, it would have been really dumb of him to try and pry something else out of Vegas.
 
Yeah if it?s Vegas reaching out, bite. They knew Vancouver was after OEL and Barrie. Not sure why they didn?t reach out to Boston instead of a division rival.
 
herman said:
Yeah if it?s Vegas reaching out, bite. They knew Vancouver was after OEL and Barrie. Not sure why they didn?t reach out to Boston instead of a division rival.
Schmidt has a M-NTC so maybe they asked him where he wanted to go and he wanted the west coast?
 
Guilt Trip said:
herman said:
Yeah if it?s Vegas reaching out, bite. They knew Vancouver was after OEL and Barrie. Not sure why they didn?t reach out to Boston instead of a division rival.
Schmidt has a M-NTC so maybe they asked him where he wanted to go and he wanted the west coast?

Maybe Boston was on his list. No need to ask if the destination is not on the list. The way Schmidt tells it, he found out about the trade when we did.

https://twitter.com/jfchaumontjdm/status/1316718734631993345
Sounds like they?re not all too communicative in Vegas unless they?re trying to woo you.
 
https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1317511394288435201
https://twitter.com/jmarshfof/status/1317518403754741762
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1317511394288435201
https://twitter.com/jmarshfof/status/1317518403754741762
Who's this Marshall guy? CC is worth 1.25 in a defensive role. A little more then I'd pay but it's not an outrageous overpayment.
 
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1319327429421314049
It's basically Kasperi Kapanen but picked at 6th instead of 22nd overall
 
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1321094092152078347
I'd still like to add Josh Ho-Sang to the Leafs, especially with Kapanen cleared out
 
Out of curiosity, why are you so high on Ho-Sang? He's 25 in two months and can't crack an NHL roster and is, at best, a good AHLer.
 
Bullfrog said:
Out of curiosity, why are you so high on Ho-Sang? He's 25 in two months and can't crack an NHL roster and is, at best, a good AHLer.

He also doesn't appear to be getting any better statistically speaking.
 
Bender said:
Bullfrog said:
Out of curiosity, why are you so high on Ho-Sang? He's 25 in two months and can't crack an NHL roster and is, at best, a good AHLer.

He also doesn't appear to be getting any better statistically speaking.

I'm not necessarily saying I want the Leafs to go out and get him but 24 points in 54 NHL games isn't bad, especially when that came from spotty/inconsistent playing time. I don't get why the Islanders haven't just cut bait on him already and let him go somewhere else.
 
Bullfrog said:
Out of curiosity, why are you so high on Ho-Sang? He's 25 in two months and can't crack an NHL roster and is, at best, a good AHLer.

He'd be a bit more of a project than a prospect at this point, but the thought that a change in scenery could help him unleash some of the potential he showed going into his draft year is intriguing.
 
Bullfrog said:
Out of curiosity, why are you so high on Ho-Sang? He's 25 in two months and can't crack an NHL roster and is, at best, a good AHLer.

His underlying numbers are better than fine. When asked to produce offense, he produced offense on a moribund lineup with bum minutes. When asked to play more defensively, he put up great shot suppression metrics. He plays a style that I like watching and that matches the Leafs.

By now, we've seen how easily players can have their careers derailed because their coach or organization didn't like how they did certain things. And we've certainly seen players of colour being targeted or held to a completely different unreasonable standard, while white players will go to unusual lengths to PR-rehab a kid with a long history of racial bullying and assault.

Call it a market inefficiency, if you will, on a player that was touted to be comparable with Connor McDavid's skill level coming up through the GTHL.
 
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